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| Quote dboy="dboy"Relying on away support is never the basis of a good business plan.'"
I'm not so sure.
Last time we played (at Leigh), there were 1800 - 1900 Wakey fans out of a crowd of 2300.
If it's anything like that, even Dr K, will be pleased with the revenue 
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"These experienced experts record of turning round low profile struggling RL clubs in England is where exactly?'"
The country is entirely irrelevant. Whether you like to accept it or not, Nobby got the new version of the Crusaders to the play offs when they had been in administration the season before and the finance guy (who I believe is English but went to live in Australia) turned around a club in Australia which was on the verge of bankruptcy when he joined it. So really, in the two most important areas, Salford now have two individuals who have experience in turning things around for the better from pretty desperate beginnings.
I hope Salford really do well out of this. Once the momentum starts to pick up - and maybe the club and it's most loyal fans will have to wait until there is a more experienced team for the momentum to really start going - then assuming the marketing is directed appropriately, the spectator numbers should start increasing.
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| Quote RLBandit="RLBandit"If only that were true, we'd have huge crowds and no problems, but you use the word 'imagine' and I'm sorry to say imagination is exactly what it is. We're deluded in this sport about what we think attracts new fans - that's obvious from our abject failure to do outside the M62.'"
How do you know what the situation is like outside the M62?
I remember going to the double header at Wembley for the Four Nations in 2011 and I've never heard so many southern English accents (and a few other European accents too) at a rugby league match. They were everywhere. And according to the RLWC2013 office, some 60% of tickets sold so far have gone to postcodes not already on the RFL database. In addition, the sport sold its largest ever block booking of tickets last week: 1000 to amateur clubs in London and 500 to St Albans Centurians amateur club.
I think there are a lot of rugby league fans who are desperate for our game to fail. It's a weird mentality but it appears to be a prevelant one among the fanbase.
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| Quote vbfg="vbfg"> what did people actually expect?
Some effort? Maybe? A big ask I know...'"
Well you've been quiet for the last few pages. Still breathless from the effort and excitement served up by your team yesterday no doubt.
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| Quote dboy="dboy"Relying on away support is never the basis of a good business plan.'"
Pretty sure that is the basis of Koukash's entire business plan as well. Excellent point, well made.
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| Quote stouffer="stouffer"Pretty sure that is the basis of Koukash's entire business plan as well. Excellent point, well made.'"
It wasn't my suggestion, it was SeaDivers.
The point is factually robust either way.
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| Quote ExiledTiger="ExiledTiger"Well you've been quiet for the last few pages.'"
I'd made my point. Were you expecting a song and dance routine?
Sorry that it offends you so, but it was still a poor game. The quality of other games (and fwiw, there was plenty of commitment from both sides yesterday) doesn't alter the quality of the one under discussion.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"How do you know what the situation is like outside the M62?
I remember going to the double header at Wembley for the Four Nations in 2011 and I've never heard so many southern English accents (and a few other European accents too) at a rugby league match. They were everywhere. And according to the RLWC2013 office, some 60% of tickets sold so far have gone to postcodes not already on the RFL database. In addition, the sport sold its largest ever block booking of tickets last week: 1000 to amateur clubs in London and 500 to St Albans Centurians amateur club.
I think there are a lot of rugby league fans who are desperate for our game to fail. It's a weird mentality but it appears to be a prevelant one among the fanbase.'"
Indeed, it feels far more likely to me that fans outside the M62 corridor will be attracted to a international game of significance than an unimportant match between Salford and Castleford. Congratulations on a far less delusional insight. If, on the other hand, you genuinely believe that irrelevant club games are attractive to fans, please explain where all the London fans are.
On the contrary, I am desperate for our game to succeed. I am desperate for THE CURRENT RFL LEADERSHIP to 'fail' to be awarded new contracts, since I consider the latter to be a precondition of the former.
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| Quote SCR-SeaDiver="SCR-SeaDiver"
I expect a huge contingent of Wakefield fans at the next televised home game at Salford on Monday 10th June...ko.7.45pm...No excuses !
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I'm looking forward to it. Be good to see the new Stadium 
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| Quote JonB95="JonB95"I watched it on the TV with my friend who has quite literally never seen a rugby match in his life, he was completely captivated by it. He's going to Saints - Widnes on Friday now and can't wait .'"
This,
the amount our own fans & even the hosts of the TV feel compelled to undermine and apologise for our own game , when to the un-intiated the event is peceived as exciting
Quote JonB95="wrencat1873"Quote JonB95="dboy"Relying on away support is never the basis of a good business plan.'"
I'm not so sure.
Last time we played (at Leigh), there were 1800 - 1900 Wakey fans out of a crowd of 2300.
If it's anything like that, even Dr K, will be pleased with the revenue
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Wrencat , I'm expecting that 1800-1900 to actually turn up at the right stadium this time on the 10th June

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| Quote RLBandit="RLBandit"Indeed, it feels far more likely to me that fans outside the M62 corridor will be attracted to a international game of significance than an unimportant match between Salford and Castleford. Congratulations on a far less delusional insight. '"
How do you know who was watching Saturday's game on TV? That's right, you don't. You have absolutely no idea what the interest levels are in our sport from either outside or within the M62 region.
All you know is that two perennially struggling clubs are failing to attract bodies to their stadia - at the moment. Given that both Salford and London have had much bigger crowds in their recent past than they have at present suggests that the fans are out there but they are biding their time or need enticing back. A competitive team is one thing both clubs need along with good management and a settled and accessible place to call home.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"The country is entirely irrelevant. Whether you like to accept it or not, Nobby got the new version of the Crusaders to the play offs when they had been in administration the season before and the finance guy (who I believe is English but went to live in Australia) turned around a club in Australia which was on the verge of bankruptcy when he joined it. So really, in the two most important areas, Salford now have two individuals who have experience in turning things around for the better from pretty desperate beginnings.
I hope Salford really do well out of this. Once the momentum starts to pick up - and maybe the club and it's most loyal fans will have to wait until there is a more experienced team for the momentum to really start going - then assuming the marketing is directed appropriately, the spectator numbers should start increasing.'"
The country is extremely relevant, I have no doubt Noble will assemble a capable team, but as has been alouded to, just producing a relatively successful team doesnt neccessarily equate to bums on seats
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