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Quote: JB Down Under "RU has a team called Leeds Rhinos?

I would have disavowed them the day they took on the Quins brand if they had been my club.'"


I thought they were the "Leeds Tykes" icon_confused.gif

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Gutterfax - I don't think the Broncos "woes" are down to playing at The Stoop or the Quins thing, just that it put me off. It wasn't the ground - I used to watch them there first time round it was just branding thing as the final straw.

The Broncos "woes" are down to two things - potential support widely dispersed and people not being inclined to travel 3 hours plus match time on a Sunday when they have other things to do, especially in summer / family commitments / etc and the fact that the modern game is too predictible - 5 drives and a kick - which the uninitiated find boring and so do not return.

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Quote: Dally " and the fact that the modern game is too predictible - 5 drives and a kick - which the uninitiated find boring and so do not return.'"


That is a complete load of rubbish, get a grip of yourself. I've taken loads of people to their first games of RL at Broncos and elsewhere and universally they are impressed with the speed, power and openness of the sport.

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Quote: Tre Cool "That is a complete load of rubbish, get a grip of yourself. I've taken loads of people to their first games of RL at Broncos and elsewhere and universally they are impressed with the speed, power and openness of the sport.'"


.... and I've lost count of the number of people who say "Why do they just run into each other? Why don't they try to avoid the tacklers?" Although one can explain why, most people just don't get it.

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Quote: wrencat1873 "I thought they were the "Leeds Tykes"
That name went years ago. Leeds Carnegie now.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: JB Down Under "RU has a team called Leeds Rhinos?'"

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The South African cricketer and fieldsman [iextraordinaire[/i Gus McKay delivered the news of London's relocation to Barnet on the BBC. Does that mean that he remains CEO for 2014?

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "The South African cricketer and fieldsman [iextraordinaire[/i Gus McKay delivered the news of London's relocation to Barnet on the BBC. Does that mean that he remains CEO for 2014?'"

Yep.
He is the only back office staff member with all administrative and marketing duties taken over by the team at the Hive in return for a fee and a share of the gate revenue and ALL the bar and food revenue.
The move protects nothing about top flight RL in the capital, but does give him a chance to brush up his CV,
Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "14-01-11 / Gus Mackay Joins as CEO. The Club had finished the previous year with a 3,400 average.
20-02-11 / 1,766 witness the seasons opener v Crusaders a record lowest attendance for the club in SL
22-06-11 / Club announce they are investigating a possible re-brand
10-09-11 / 3,456 Watch the loss to St Helens, securing 12th spot
01-11-11 / Club announce a rebrand back to the Broncos name
19-01-12 / Season Tickets sent out to 859 people.
24-01-12 / Club dispatches Replica shirts with the promise you can have the sponsor added later…when they get one
27-01-12 / Club Launch new Website nearly 3 full months after the re-brand
04-02-12 / 4,924 witness the first game as the London Broncos..the team has no shirt sponsor
17-05-12 / After only 2 league wins all season and declining crowds the club announce a review.
09-06-12 / 2,117 watch the team achieve their third win of the season to move off the foot of the table.
17-07-12 / The Club announce a temporary sponsorship arrangement with a local building supplies store.
18-07-12 / The Club, sitting bottom of the league, announce the return of Tony Rea.
18-08-12 / The Sun report the club is moving to Gillingham, The CEO does nothing on Live TV to dispell this rumour
18-08-12 / CEO states that is may be November before the new coach is anounced
21-08-12 / Three days later, Tone Rea is announced as the new head coach.
08-09-12 / 2,525 watch the Broncos win their last game of the season, finishing in 12th position with the lowest ever average for a season…2,808
08-09-12 / No official announcements are made at the end of seasons awards……the home ground and info in 2013 ST's are still a mystery
19-09-12 / The Club announce that they will remain at the stoop for 2013.
05-11-12 / Pre season begins
12-11-12 / 5 days later…The Club announce the 2013 ST deals on offer which included the early bird offer and the promise of 2 fans foums during the season.
13-11-12 / Selco extend their sponsorship of the Broncos for the 2013 season in a deal brokered by the RFL.
15-01-13 / Gus tells the BBC that the club will definitely be leaving the stoop at the end of the season
15-01-13 / The Club online shop opens….3 weeks after Xmas
22-01-13 / Season ticket Early Bird offer extended.
03-02-13 / 2,856 fans witnes the season opening loss to Widnes. Some fans are overcharged by the club for entrance to the game.
17-01-13 / 2nd home game of the year and A record low crowd for the visit of Wakefield to London in SL of 1,887
21-02-13 / The Club announce the return of Curry Night
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Gutterfax's last posting could be written about so many RL clubs.

Maybe one day someone will bite the bullet and say enough is enough.

If that means the end of sacred clubs then so be it.

RL is touted as a business, so deal with it as a business and make the decisions that need to be made.

If some clubs disappeared I don't think many would be at the wake as things stand at the moment.

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Gutters, or anyone else for that matter - A few genuine questions here, given the situation the club are in at the moment do you think moving to Barnet is a good move? Either as a stop gap or as a firm relocation to build from?

If a place to build from do you think they'd be better off renaming themselves after the local area? Barnet Broncos? Rather than as London?

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Him "Gutters, or anyone else for that matter - A few genuine questions here, given the situation the club are in at the moment do you think moving to Barnet is a good move? Either as a stop gap or as a firm relocation to build from?'"


The Stoop was costing £200k a year (in the 2012 report I have been shown). This cost represents 9% of the loss made by the club that year (£2,200,000) and when you take into account that ticket sales and ST revenue generated £323,000, then it is hard to fathom exactly why the move has happened? Administration costs of £630,000 icon_twisted.gif

David Hughes cares little for the £14,000,000 or so he has "lost". He does not accept any form of criticism or critical advice, he employed and then stuck with Powell, he employed the Current CEO with little in the way of formal interviews or background checks, he stands toe to toe with the RFL on a number of issues and essentially treats the club as HIS hobby. Some fans will accept this and to be fair, he is a ing legend for propping the club up, but a 5yr old could tell you that it is not a business model that would deliver any sustainability.

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22/03/2013 Get LEIGH outta wigan:



So in order to get Mr K involved in 2015 the club needs,by the end of 2014,to be getting close to 4k or 5k gates with an average admittance price of £40 a month ,and Mr K ,Barnet fc and the Hive have been given the Task?

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: j.c "So in order to get Mr K involved in 2015 the club needs,by the end of 2014,to be getting close to 4k or 5k gates with an average admittance price of £40 a month ,and Mr K ,Barnet fc and the Hive have been given the Task?'"

in a nutshell? Yep!

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22/03/2013 Get LEIGH outta wigan:



Quote: gutterfax "in a nutshell? Yep!'"



A big job on there hands,lets hope the locals buy into it

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Just to clarify the long term prospects for the London Broncos thanks to the new deal:

1. No club with an average under 10,000 in SL is self sufficient. They ALL make losses.
2. TK (guy at barnet) we are reliably informed does not invest.....he expects his teams to pay their own way
3. The Hive is currently a 5,200 capacity stadium.
4. See points 1 & 3 then re-read point 2.

Feel free to use a calculator if necessary!

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