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| Quote: kobashi "Ridiculous! How many times does this need to be said, SBW did the exact same thing in Rugby Union. This is nothing new!
My objection to wearing clothing that markets banks, alcohol and gambling companies is central to my religious beliefs
so he won't be wearing ANY TWP branding as they promote alcohol and he will give up his shares, his pension, maybe he can play in sack cloth with a crown of thorns too.?
He best get rid of his tattoos as well...
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| Quote: IR80 "My objection to wearing clothing that markets banks, alcohol and gambling companies is central to my religious beliefs
so he won't be wearing ANY TWP branding as they promote alcohol and he will give up his shares, his pension, maybe he can play in sack cloth with a crown of thorns too.?
He best get rid of his tattoos as well...'"
He won’t wear the logo, but he takes the money from behind it.
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| Quote: kobashi "Ridiculous! How many times does this need to be said, SBW did the exact same thing in Rugby Union. This is nothing new!
The very significant difference between that and this is that he is a (part) owner of TWP, a business that actively encourages and promotes (and likely benefits financially from) the sale and consumption of alcohol and also advertises gambling. Owning shares in a company that does such means that he is condoning the actions - Sharia law doesn't allow you to pick and chose which bits of a company you have shares in to ignore.
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Why are people surprised at religion giving rise to inconsistent/hypocritical behaviours?
Personally, I never expect fiction to make too much sense.
That said - no issue with SBW (or any other player for that matter) objecting to advertising gambling, alcohol, cigarettes, payday loans or anything else they choose to object to. If their employers and the sponsors themselves can deal with it I don't see why we should get animated.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Why are people surprised at religion giving rise to inconsistent/hypocritical behaviours?
Personally, I never expect fiction to make too much sense.
That said - no issue with SBW (or any other player for that matter) objecting to advertising gambling, alcohol, cigarettes, payday loans or anything else they choose to object to. If their employers and the sponsors themselves can deal with it I don't see why we should get animated.'"
You do know what the cross with the horizontal in ascendecy means I assume? |
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| Quote: IR80 "You do know what the cross with the horizontal in ascendecy means I assume?'"
I have no idea what you mean nor why it relates to my post? |
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Muslims around the world are now talking about rugby league due to SBW. That can only be good for the game
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| Quote: Steph Curry "Muslims around the world are now talking about rugby league due to SBW. That can only be good for the game'"
Cool. Does that work the other way too?
Anyway, I hope they realise that the world of Rugby League is rich and diverse and simultaneously home to different traditions and strands of opinion, and don’t resort to stereotypes or broad generalisations. |
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| Quote: kobashi "Ridiculous! How many times does this need to be said, SBW did the exact same thing in Rugby Union. This is nothing new!
And how many times has he jumped ship (to a different sport, never mind club) to go chasing dollars? This guy plays for himself and nobody else. Toronto don't no when he's likely to take the field, and this seems very much like Pogba at United.
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| Quote: Mr Dog "The very significant difference between that and this is that he is a (part) owner of TWP, a business that actively encourages and promotes (and likely benefits financially from) the sale and consumption of alcohol and also advertises gambling. Owning shares in a company that does such means that he is condoning the actions - Sharia law doesn't allow you to pick and chose which bits of a company you have shares in to ignore.'"
Who says he’s following Sharia law? Lots of Muslims, Christians, Jews and people of all religions follow parts of their religion and not others.
His team don’t have an issue. The league doesn’t have an issue. The sponsor doesn’t have an issue. Not sure why fans of other clubs are incredibly worked up over this. |
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| Quote: MorePlaymakersNeeded "And how many times has he jumped ship (to a different sport, never mind club) to go chasing dollars? This guy plays for himself and nobody else. Toronto don't no when he's likely to take the field, and this seems very much like Pogba at United.'"
So? Name me a player who doesn’t play for himself?
Can this guy actually win with people?
He goes to where he’s paid more - gets slagged off for “chasing money”
Doesn’t chase money and sticks to his beliefs - gets slagged off for not towing the line not chasing the money.
Insular, backward, parochial RL at its finest. |
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| Quote: Mild Rover "It’s too late for 2020, but how would people feel about a luxury tax, similar in principle to these:
Do you mean essentially as a tax on clubs spending more than a certain amount?
If so I’ve been in favour of that in the past. Essentially have a finite cap and then anything that is spent over that the club also has to give so much in “tax” to the league to spend where it sees fit.
Personally now I’d rather just go with a cap that is a proportion of a clubs income. It should incentivise clubs to increase their income then. But crucially exclude loans from a clubs income calculations. Then a club can’t be put into debt by directors loans chasing success. A rich owner can still invest, but it has to be given, not loaned to the club.
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| Quote: Him "Do you mean essentially as a tax on clubs spending more than a certain amount?
If so I’ve been in favour of that in the past. Essentially have a finite cap and then anything that is spent over that the club also has to give so much in “tax” to the league to spend where it sees fit.
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Pretty much, yep. |
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| Quote: Mild Rover "Cool. Does that work the other way too?
Anyway, I hope they realise that the world of Rugby League is rich and diverse and simultaneously home to different traditions and strands of opinion, and don’t resort to stereotypes or broad generalisations.'"
Other way around? What do you mean? Like rugby league is talking about Islam? |
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