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Quote: headhunter "Toronto are funded by "a consortium of 10 businessmen" apparently. I don't know how Toulouse are funded and I don't care. The point is that neither of them were struggling clubs that only exist in the way they do because they happened to be bought by a millionaire owner who they are totally dependent on. Not singling out Leigh for this BTW, as I said, there are probably 6-7 current SL teams that you could say the same for, that's the nature of the sport in the UK but the whole thing is massively exacerbated by the current structure. Great for Leigh and the others as long as their owners are involved, not so great for Sheffield or Bradford who don't happen to have millionaire owners, tried to artificially compete and spend above their means and now are in turmoil.'"


So a ' consortium ' , I was once part of one of those , but eventually you end up with 1 person who's ambitions/willingness to invest will supersede the rest

Then it will be one single benefactor

Toulouse do not have the income streams currently to finance a 1.8 million cap spend in the Championship , so somebody is going to be picking up the tab

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Poor Headhunter, he's really 'tramuatised' by Leigh gaining PROMOTION to Super League.....PATHETIC ! icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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Quote: headhunter "Leigh's average was 4,736 last time they were in Super League. Interesting to see if they can beat it this time around.'"


Do you want a bet ill go £100 for every spectator above that and you can have £200 for every spectator under that average?

..................... we've just beaten a 1/4 of the league teams we are joining its the hardest sporting route to promotion in any sport in the world, we didnt have to tick boxes or grease palms we had to beat 3 of the teams in the league above. We did it and on your other rants heres a list of players under 30 from Saturday

McNally
Higson
Worthington
Brown
Drinkwater
Weston
Patterson
Hopkins
Dixon
Hood

.............................................................. [sizeedited by Poptart. Don't try to get round the swear filter. This is way over the top as a reply. Your point was well worth saying without making it personal. Consider this a gentle warning. You'll be taking a rest if you continue[/size

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Quote: headhunter "Or a loudmouth millionaire owner who is able to get the rules changed to allow him to spend way more money than everyone else in the division.'"


Or an owner who got the rules changed to allow him to spend the same as the other 4 clubs can who we have to compete with to get promotion.

Quit the insults or take a break - Karen

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Quote: headhunter "I don't have any problem with what Leigh did at all, the cap should be the same across all divisions and it will be from next season so there isn't a problem. I was just replying to the guy who was talking about on-field success being a sign of good things happening off the field, which isn't true. Leigh were on their way to being relegated from the Championship before Beaumont got involved.'"


Wed just won 2 Northern Rail cups in 3 years eye we were on our way to beging relegated... a026.gif

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Quote: Tipster Ste "Toronto are funded by one owner you

Your beginning to sound like someone who used to turn up on our forums and FB pages... Your not are you...'"


Ignoring all the abuse your throwing at headhunter for a moment, Toronto are funded by a consortium of 10 businessmen (Canadian & Australian), led by Eric Perez who is the CEO. Next time, before you start frothing at the mouth, try Google.

There's a chance they'll have bigger gates in 2017 than Leigh did this year, and a few SL clubs too.

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Quote: headhunter "Leigh were on their way to being relegated from the Championship before Beaumont got involved.'"

Leigh Centurions finished [i9th[/i from [i11[/i teams in the Co Operative Championship, the year was 2009 & [iToulouse Olympique [/i finished [i10th[/i & [iwould have been relegated[/i but for their [iExemption from relegation[/i under the [iRFL's Expansionist Empire[/i.

Toulouse Olympique could not afford to continue in the Championship & neither could Gateshead who despite a good showing were wound up (another failed expansion area).

I will welcome Toulouse Olympique back with open arms & to a degree Toronto [iCenturions[/i ,though the way they approached their recruitment will always taint them for me.

So Leigh [iCOULD[/i have been relegated but [iSHOULDN'T[/i have been relegated, in the same way that Catalan Dragons [iShould Not[/i have had 6 years direct entry, gratis, exempt at the expense of established RL Clubs & without having to work through the grades to achieve success. Note that I am pleased it worked out for Catalan & aim to visit in 2017 but it could also have worked out for Featherstone Rovers who were at the time the dominant Championship RL Club.

Give your expansionist head a little wobble for a mo & consider the worth of long standing, some founding member RL Clubs such as Leigh, Fev, Fax, Bradford & Whitehaven.

Unless you want a Yorkshire v France league with a token Cheshire, Merseyside & Canadian Club thrown in.

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Quote: Ste100Centurions "Leigh Centurions finished [i9th[/i from [i11[/i teams in the Co Operative Championship, the year was 2009 & [iToulouse Olympique [/i finished [i10th[/i & [iwould have been relegated[/i but for their [iExemption from relegation[/i under the [iRFL's Expansionist Empire[/i.

Toulouse Olympique could not afford to continue in the Championship & neither could Gateshead who despite a good showing were wound up (another failed expansion area).

I will welcome Toulouse Olympique back with open arms & to a degree Toronto [iCenturions[/i ,though the way they approached their recruitment will always taint them for me.

So Leigh [iCOULD[/i have been relegated but [iSHOULDN'T[/i have been relegated, in the same way that Catalan Dragons [iShould Not[/i have had 6 years direct entry, gratis, exempt at the expense of established RL Clubs & without having to work through the grades to achieve success. Note that I am pleased it worked out for Catalan & aim to visit in 2017 but it could also have worked out for Featherstone Rovers who were at the time the dominant Championship RL Club.

Give your expansionist head a little wobble for a mo & consider the worth of long standing, some founding member RL Clubs such as Leigh, Fev, Fax, Bradford & Whitehaven.

Unless you want a Yorkshire v France league with a token Cheshire, Merseyside & Canadian Club thrown in.'"


Why do you always randomly bold stuff for no reason? It's like reading posts written by a 12 year old.

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Quote: jakeyg95 "Why do you always randomly bold stuff for no reason? It's like reading posts written by a 12 year old.'"
The bigger question is why he wrote out a lengthy post ranting and raving about some 'expansionist empire' ( icon_confused.gif ) when all I said is Leigh nearly got relegated, which is true. They also nearly went bust, this was 5 years ago: www.leighobserver.co.uk/sport/le ... -1-3869577
Quote: jakeyg95 "Why do you always randomly bold stuff for no reason? It's like reading posts written by a 12 year old.'"
The bigger question is why he wrote out a lengthy post ranting and raving about some 'expansionist empire' ( icon_confused.gif ) when all I said is Leigh nearly got relegated, which is true. They also nearly went bust, this was 5 years ago: www.leighobserver.co.uk/sport/le ... -1-3869577


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Quote: headhunter "The bigger question is why he wrote out a lengthy post ranting and raving about some 'expansionist empire' (
Yeah, fair play to them getting promoted and everything but I think a few of them are completely deluded if they think they offer anything different to Super League. At the end of the day, they've had one season in the top flight in the last 20 years for a reason. They're a small team with a small fan base based in a small town in Wigan. Hardly something that's gonna massively increase the profile of the sport. Super League would be much better off with either a well run expansion team or a Bradford side that isn't completely dysfunctional but hey ho. I say this as a Wakefield fan too and acknowledge that we don't really offer that much either (although fortunately for us someone appears to have cast some kind of spell that means we can never be relegated).

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Quote: jakeyg95 "(although fortunately for us someone appears to have cast some kind of spell that means we can never be relegated).'"


Which you've now broken icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Willzay "Which you've now broken
It can never be broken. Someone put it best after we beat Bradford in the million pound game when they described us as the turd that won't flush.

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Quote: jakeyg95 "It can never be broken. Someone put it best after we beat Bradford in the million pound game when they described us as the turd that won't flush.'"


That is comedy gold and made me chuckle. Nice one Jakey !

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Quote: jakeyg95 "Why do you always randomly bold stuff for no reason? It's like reading posts written by a 12 year old.'"

Because I like to & if I have to explain it to you then you should maybe sit & read with your responsible adult or carer.

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