Right, you do know that not every team can be in and around the top of the table every year?

But shh stop talking sense Smokey will come and multi-quote you and make weak baseless judgements that he will keep going with until you get bored of him and stop replying

Thats fair enough, but it seems fairly unambitious for both Cas and Wakefield. Is the elite level really the place for clubs who are happy just to provide a career for local juniors? This isnt a bad thing, in fact it is a good thing, but is the elite level the place for it.

If cas can do better than any team that would replace them, yes its, if cas are wanting to grow as a club as well the answer is also yes. Over the last few years cas have improved in youth development, crowds (though we did have a blip last year with two games being rearanged resulting in our attendancing dipping), sponsorship, community programs and we have made strides towards the ground (which will be built for next year just not the start of the season). We are doing what the rfl has asked clubs to do in the franchise system, we are growing as a club, which hasnt been easy after being set back years by our first relegation.

Cas could claim they are going to win sl every year but no team will without a a very rich man behind them to buy the top coaches and pay transfer fees for the best players, if we get a sugar daddy we will have as much chance of anyone of doing so in a salary cap system, in fact with the strides we have made in youth development i would say we would have a better chance than more than half the teams in the league. You yourself have argued that the way to success is to develop local talent.

and you was doing so well.

If the stadium is built, i would like to think it has the same effect that the new stadium for Warrington did, i'm using them as an example because Cas and Warrington for many years were similar clubs in team ability and attendances, if anything Cas were always just that bit better, when Warrington got their new ground it took them to another level above Cas, and hopefully the same will happen for Cas in the near future.

Theres a big differance between attending the odd game at another club and becoming a regular supporter, that attends game week in week out and buy merchandise, you have to have a passion for the club to do that.

I've no idea where you come up with those number as it cant be from talking to fans, theres no way wakey fans would come over in such numbers, to even have a chance at getting half those numbers you would have to call the team wakefield and the amount of cas fans that would support a team called wakefield would be in the hundreds at best.

warrington got a new stadium + huge investment from Mr Moran. It was both that have fuelled their growth. Not one individually.

That isnt the case at all. Just being the best of however many teams doesnt mean you should be in the elite league, thats the reason we have an elite league.

If Cas's best aim is to simply offer a career to the local juniors and nobody below can offer more, we would be better cutting the size of SL.

And you dont need a sugar daddy to buy the best players or pay the full SC, both Leeds and Hull do it whilst making a profit. You could argue there are reasons Leeds and Hull can do this and Castleford cant, but they are simply reasons that SL may not be the right place for Cas.

The way to success is to develop local talent, but how many are you losing because you cant afford to keep them? If all the aim of Cas is to bring in local talent train them until 20/21/22 then let them go to the bigger clubs, they can do that in the championships.

If you are in SL, more is demanded of you.

Even if you get half those numbers, its a ridiculously huge amount better than getting none of them.

Cas would stand an even better chance of success if a club like Leeds didn't spend so much time in the area cherry picking some of the young talent with promises of the world,freebies for the kids and match tickets & tours of the stadium for the parents.

Doncaster have a new stadium!

Yes they do, and a very nice stadium it is too but they don't have bums on seats. At least Cas know if they build it the fans will come.

The fans are already there, Look at the NL1 Grand Final against Widnes. 10'000 Cas Fans.