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Quote: Cronus "The original Barton concept had plans for a casino, hotel and other facilities '"


Yes. And it was going to make Salford the richest club in the history of sport. Turned out to be slightly less than factual though, didn't it?

Quote: Cronus "go out and pitch the stadium at any number of touring events (concerts, NFL, wrestling, boxing, motorsports, etc, etc)'"


A 20-40k stadium?

This is, at best, a fantasy. Even more so that than the Casino, hotel etc in Salford.

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Quote: tb "Yes. And it was going to make Salford the richest club in the history of sport. Turned out to be slightly less than factual though, didn't it?

A 20-40k stadium?

This is, at best, a fantasy. Even more so that than the Casino, hotel etc in Salford.'"

Monster Trucks? Haye vs Klitschko? WWF? Bon Jovi? I see no problem with a 40k stadium hosting these events.

The loss of the casino was hardly Salford's fault, was it? A great idea that floundered due to outside influences, just as the larger scale plans were binned as the world entered financial meltdown.

Of course, a hotel next door to the massive industrial and business parks at Trafford Park and around Manchester and right on the M60 would be a disaster.

Not quite sure what your point is. You think a central hub for RL would be A Bad Thing?

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Quote: Starbug "As for the reason we cant fill Wembley , reread some of the earlier posts , it isn't just fans of certain clubs fault , it is the lack of competition at that level , plus we are by nature club orientated , we always have been'"

If that’s what you think, then why did you spend 4 pages of posts arguing with me when I said the same thing earlier in the thread?

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Quote: Starbug "
As for the reason we cant fill Wembley , reread some of the earlier posts , it isn't just fans of certain clubs fault , it is the lack of competition at that level , plus we are by nature club orientated , we always have been'"


Quote: Starbug "1985 cup final when Wigan beat Hull F.C. 28–24 in front of 99,801 fans. The stadium was also regularly used by the sport for major international matches, such as Great Britain versus Australia. The stadium set the international record crowd for a rugby league game when 73,631 fans turned out for the 1992 Rugby League World Cup Final between Great Britain and Australia. '"


Admittedly, the first one of those is a club game … but "we can't fill Wembley"?

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Dunbar "If that’s what you think, then why did you spend 4 pages of posts arguing with me when I said the same thing earlier in the thread?'"


No , you said it was the main reason , I said it wasn't the main reason , why did I do that

Simple , I have been to lots of Internationals , but I'm that fed up of dissapointment , I'm not bothered any more , that and a general dissatisfaction with how the game is being run are the main reasons I have lost interest in International RL , read what is there , not what you think is there

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I must say that if English RL needs a permanent home, so does Wales.


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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Conorgiantsfan "I must say that if English RL needs a permanent home, so does Wales.


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Quote: Starbug "No , you said it was the main reason , I said it wasn't the main reason , why did I do that

Simple , I have been to lots of Internationals , but I'm that fed up of dissapointment , I'm not bothered any more , that and a general dissatisfaction with how the game is being run are the main reasons I have lost interest in International RL , read what is there , not what you think is there'"

There are a lot of "I's" there, did it not occur to you that I was talking about the whole of the Rugby League world and not just what you thought about international rugby?

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Quote: Cronus "

Of course, a hotel next door to the massive industrial and business parks at Trafford Park and around Manchester and right on the M60 would be a disaster.'"


That the site is also right next to a sewage works may well count against that flash hotel idea though.

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[i:2v2cei1t]'You put your Wendell in, You take your Brownie out, You put your Bennett in, And you make it to the 8, You do the Oki Chokie, And you get knocked out, Thats what St George are about' [/i:2v2cei1t] [quote="dally messenger":2v2cei1t]parra had no ball and still looked like scoring all the time[/quote:2v2cei1t] [quote="The Chief":2v2cei1t]What a knob Barrie MacKenzie is.[/quote:2v2cei1t] [quote="gutterfax":2v2cei1t]I like Bazza. He chose the name of a cross dressing Austalian institutions other persona.....and is your typical Aussie w@nker living in London whilst he tries to get some culture by visiting Prague to get pi55ed on Cheap Star, getting a fondle from a dodgy hooker in amsterdam and eating a snail for a bet when in paris. All of these things will make him a cultural icon when his visa runs out and he is sent the way of his great grandparents....alas, not in chains this time.[/quote:2v2cei1t] NEW COMPETITION COMING SOON!! YOU COULD BE THE NEXT BARRY McKENZIE!! WATCH THIS SPACE!! Barry McKenzie can be contacted at aussielegendbaz@gmail.com:45452.jpg



The cold hard facts are these.

Rugby League is effectively a minority sport in the UK played almost exclusively by clubs from what has been called the M62 corridor.

And it has always been that way.


Until schools all across the country play league as their preferred code of Rugby rather than union then thats the way it will stay.


Also when you factor in the fact England/GB have won nothing at international level since a very high % of this forums users were born really doesnt help.

What on earth is the point in even thinking about holding an RL international at Wembley? Last years 4 nations clash between England and Australia at Wigan couldnt even sell out the DW. And Wigan is arguably in one of the biggest rugby league supporting areas in the UK.

Times have moved on since the game was drawing lots of fans for RL fixtures at Wembley.

Why should your average English supporter (who is most likely to be living in the north) have to travel to London to watch his national side get a flogging...when he can just watch it on Sky down the pub (if you can find a pub that is not showing soccer instead)

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Quote: Barry_McKenzie "The cold hard facts are these.

watch it on Sky down the pub (if you can find a pub )'"


Think that may summarise part of the reason why that's a non runner eusa_whistle.gif eusa_whistle.gif

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Quote: Leaguefan "Think that may summarise part of the reason why that's a non runner
Surely to god most pubs in the RL heartlands that have live sport showing would show an RL international?

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Quote: Barry_McKenzie "Surely to god most pubs in the RL heartlands that have live sport showing would show an RL international?'"



It's actually finding PUBS!!!

They are closing at about 40 a week in GB!!! and have been doing so for many years.

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[i:2v2cei1t]'You put your Wendell in, You take your Brownie out, You put your Bennett in, And you make it to the 8, You do the Oki Chokie, And you get knocked out, Thats what St George are about' [/i:2v2cei1t] [quote="dally messenger":2v2cei1t]parra had no ball and still looked like scoring all the time[/quote:2v2cei1t] [quote="The Chief":2v2cei1t]What a knob Barrie MacKenzie is.[/quote:2v2cei1t] [quote="gutterfax":2v2cei1t]I like Bazza. He chose the name of a cross dressing Austalian institutions other persona.....and is your typical Aussie w@nker living in London whilst he tries to get some culture by visiting Prague to get pi55ed on Cheap Star, getting a fondle from a dodgy hooker in amsterdam and eating a snail for a bet when in paris. All of these things will make him a cultural icon when his visa runs out and he is sent the way of his great grandparents....alas, not in chains this time.[/quote:2v2cei1t] NEW COMPETITION COMING SOON!! YOU COULD BE THE NEXT BARRY McKENZIE!! WATCH THIS SPACE!! Barry McKenzie can be contacted at aussielegendbaz@gmail.com:45452.jpg



Quote: Leaguefan "It's actually finding PUBS!!!

They are closing at about 40 a week in GB!!! and have been doing so for many years.'"


It will be the highly priced warm beer and the small bags of fried pig skin and fat (scratchings?) they sell behind the bar thats causing the punters to disappear faster than a labrador who has just seen Joel Monaghan reaching for the peanut butter.

British pubs are pretty ordinary.


Thats why Barry McKenzie refuses to drink in any other establishments other than Shepherds Bush Walkabout during the week and The Church on a sunday lunchtime.

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Quote: Barry_McKenzie "It will be the highly priced warm beer and the small bags of fried pig skin and fat (scratchings?) they sell behind the bar thats causing the punters to disappear faster than a labrador who has just seen Joel Monaghan reaching for the peanut butter.

British pubs are pretty ordinary.


Thats why Barry McKenzie refuses to drink in any other establishments other than Shepherds Bush Walkabout during the week and The Church on a sunday lunchtime.'"


You are at the moment living in London Barry,I thought all the beer darn sarf was warm anyway. icon_smile.gif

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