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| Quote: Clearwing "Catalans were indeed a disgrace last season and it sounds like this one's going to be no different. I really don't know how there can be 100% proof of faking though. Yes, you can point towards their subs being warmed up and ready for the switch but they'll soon find a way round that as soon as it's scrutinized.'"
Subs being warmed up and ready, the time and nature of when the player goes off. All games are recorded for the disciplinary so scrutinise the tackles that apparently caused the concussion.
I agree it’s not easy but I think this is an important area of the game and needs proper oversight otherwise you have to get rid of the concussion protocols.
If the RFL were to severely punish the club, the players, the head coach and the staff involved that should provide enough incentive to not do it. A head coach isn’t going to risk a year ban for instance or players a 3/4 month.
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| Quote: Him "However could then discourage players from admitting they may have concussion or some symptoms of it.'"
They do that anyway but are over ruled by the doctor/physio.
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| Quote: Him "It’s something the RFL are going to have to investigate. Given what Catalans were like with their players faking injuries last season I have no doubt they would do something like this as well.
If they are doing it then it needs a massive punishment from the RFL for the club, the coach, the players and the physio/doctors involved.'"
Whilst they’re at it, they need to look at the attacking player stepping over the tackler, deliberately fouling the ruck, and winning a penalty for it. Another of Catalans cynical tactics.
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| Quote: Returnee "Whilst they’re at it, they need to look at the attacking player stepping over the tackler, deliberately fouling the ruck, and winning a penalty for it. Another of Catalans cynical tactics.'"
They did it last night - Teirney been the worst culprit. James Child fell for it several times.
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| I think the giveaway was the fact the physio ran onto the field towards the player who was going to be replaced patting his head as a signal to the player to stop. It was so bloody obvious I’m surprised the off-field officials didn’t notice.
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| Quote: Him "I agree it’s not easy but I think this is an important area of the game and needs proper oversight otherwise you have to get rid of the concussion protocols. '"
Yeah, this is the worst aspect in a nutshell. Catalans will ultimately weaken player protections if they carry on with this. The other coaches need to pressurize MacNamara over the issue too.
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| One of the "concussed" Catalan players even sprinted off the pitch!
2 easy ways to counter it:
Independant concussion doctor makes the call
The free sub is when you lose the player to concussion.
Example of the current rule being wrong is Cas lost McMeeken AND a sub early in the game due to concussion, Catalan got 2 free subs by faking needing a concussion test. So in essence they had 3 extra interchanges and an extra man on the bench.
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| Quote: Returnee "Whilst they’re at it, they need to look at the attacking player stepping over the tackler, deliberately fouling the ruck, and winning a penalty for it. Another of Catalans cynical tactics.'"
Correct,and next time anyone tries it, they should be penalised for moving off the mark.
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| Quote: Gronk! "One of the "concussed" Catalan players even sprinted off the pitch!
2 easy ways to counter it
A good answer to solve this has already been given. If the player comes back on after a head test, then it
should be counted as an interchange. That'll stop the fakers.
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| Quote: Cokey "Correct,and next time anyone tries it, they should be penalised for moving off the mark.'"
This is one of my real bug bears & is embarrassing when referees fall for it. It seems that the quest for a speedy game has led to referees refusing to enforce certain rules against the attacking team.
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| Quote: Cokey "A good answer to solve this has already been given. If the player comes back on after a head test, then it
should be counted as an interchange. That'll stop the fakers.'"
Stand by for 3 Catalans players taking head knocks with 10 mins to go...and all miraculously passing the 6 day assessment just in time for next week's game...
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| Quote: Clearwing "Stand by for 3 Catalans players taking head knocks with 10 mins to go...and all miraculously passing the 6 day assessment just in time for next week's game...'"
Ha ha nice one, I never thought of that.
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| Quote: Returnee "Whilst they’re at it, they need to look at the attacking player stepping over the tackler, deliberately fouling the ruck, and winning a penalty for it. Another of Catalans cynical tactics.'"
There were loads of these instances at the start of last season and following a bit of "outrage" from various quarters, it stopped.
Huddersfield were "fine exponents" of playing the ball (and passing/ throwing it) into an offside player, usually passing/ throwing the ball downwards, clearly not towards another player.
Sometimes this is fair enough but, they (and others) were taking the P., again, this stopped after a couple of rounds.
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| Quote: Gronk! "Example of the current rule being wrong is Cas lost McMeeken AND a sub early in the game due to concussion, Catalan got 2 free subs by faking needing a concussion test. So in essence they had 3 extra interchanges and an extra man on the bench.'"
Likewise Wigan lost Clubb 2 minutes after he was subbed on, so essentially lost 2 subs and the man from this.
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| Junior Sa’u went off holding his ribs Friday night v giants and then went for a head test
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