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For me time to go. Can't keep saying we're unlucky. We're not good enough over 80 mins against the big two. 1 win in 7 says everything. It's not luck.

McNamara has done slme great work behind the scenes at England (as he did at Bradford) which he deserves credit for, but the results speak for themselves.

We can't keep sticking with him and hoping we sneak a win. We've been saying jt for years.

We have one of the best England/GB squads for a long time which is half the reason we're so competitive. Just need someone who can take us that bit further.

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His situation reminds me of Brian Noble at Wigan. He made us competitive and turned us in to a team capable of getting to semis but we could never take that next step. It needed fresh ideas to take us over the line and I think the same can be said for England.

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McNamara to stay. The only downfall was team selection and only a few players at that. England keep showing improvements and the style of play is 100% better than it used to be. You never know the tournaments not over yet he could be a winning coach.

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Quote: DropGoalGiant "McNamara to stay.
Quote: DropGoalGiant "The only downfall was team selection and only a few players at that'"
. England keep showing improvements and the style of play is 100% better than it used to be. You never know the tournaments not over yet he could be a winning coach.'"



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Nothing to do with the coach then team selections !!!!!!

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I think he's done a pretty decent job and is unfairly getting far too much stick.

We have played with structure yet been positive, the way we moved the ball around was great.

Yet again we were a number of very fine lines away where we could have won against both Aus and the Kiwis away from home.

I've seen far too many games in the past where we looked totally out of our depth.

For those who constantly carp about selection, he's shown he's more than capable of making difficult decisions and swapping players in or out. Look at Sarge, dropping Chase etc.

No one is ever going to agree with every decision a coach makes . I really don't think picking Whithead for exAmple would have raised our performances significantly last week.

The players selected made more than enough opportunities to win, it isn't as though we have a proven world beater who has been ignored.

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The team has played pretty well this tournament but a few crucial judgement calls by McNamara could have been the difference. Choosing Joel Tomkins was a big mistake at this point, as was Ferres especially in the game against NZ where he was played at Dummy Half. I like Smith as a player. He works his socks off but I'm not sure he has enough at this level and it showed.

I'm no fan of McNamara but he's improved the side slowly. I still think he's gone as far as he can and it's time for someone else to step in and take them up another gear.

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Personally I think he's done a great job, it probably is time for him to move on though.

As for the OP thinking that the answer to all Englands prayers is the Scottish player Brough, I'll ask him a question that I've never had answered by his fanboys. name me one single game of importance that he has shone in and his team won?

Brough has chosen to play for Scotland please please let's drop it

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Challenge Cup game Vs Leeds at Headingley in 2012, he destroyed Leeds and eclipsed Burrow, McGuire and Sinfield who collectively couldn't match Brough

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Quote: The Avenger "Challenge Cup game Vs Leeds at Headingley in 2012, he destroyed Leeds and eclipsed Burrow, McGuire and Sinfield who collectively couldn't match Brough'"


What round was it?

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Quote: The Avenger "Challenge Cup game Vs Leeds at Headingley in 2012, he destroyed Leeds and eclipsed Burrow, McGuire and Sinfield who collectively couldn't match Brough'"


2013, at the John Smith's you mean?

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5th I think, maybe qtr final stage.

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Erm Leeds were in the final in 2012 so Brough can't have played that well

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Quote: christopher "What round was it?'"


Why does it matter?

You asked someone to name an important match in which Brough had excelled, so I did!

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Time to go? give it a rest! he is young the team is young the team is getting better & he is learning all the time. He has only just got the job started leave him to get it done & he can get us back to the top as we used to be. The only ones who want him gone are the people who where vocal against him from the start & can't except that he is coming good. We are now entering a phase where the coaching staff & players have come through from youngsters as full time profesionals let them get on with it & progress. None of the people mentioned are better than the current coach even if they wanted the job. For me he should be in place till at least the end of the 2017 world cup.

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I think he' now doing a decent job with the players he's got available so I would probably stick with him until the world cup, he's had one or two selections not quite right but overall the balance of the team is looking a lot better than years gone past'
The loss against NZ I felt was more to do with our quality of players available, if we had a world class 1, 6 and 7 we would have probably have won all our games.

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