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| It would be good to see the competition expand to 5 nations
Australia, Kiwis and England
with a Pacific team and a European team
We need to keep Samoa in the 4 nations
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "If Samoa best Australia, the Aussies will be bottom of the 4N. Can't we just relegate them and have a 4N next year instead with England, Scotland, New Zealand and Samoa? Far better idea than 3 tests.'"
Never in a million years!
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| Quote: mapleyther "Never in a million years!'"
I know but we can dream!
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| Quote: musson "We need to keep Samoa in the 4 nations'"
Better to ensure that the SH "2nd tier" nations play in a Bi-annual Pacific Nations competition.
PNG, Tonga, Samoa and Fiji need to meet on a regular basis.....same format as the 4 Nations. The "COST" of flying these teams around could be met through ticket sales, sponsorship and TV rights.
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| The pacific nations are pretty equal, samoa slightly the better but fiji and png not far behind and Tonga usually give samoa a close game. A tournament next year featuring those 4 plus nz and england would have been better.
The European nations at moment are too far behind to be competitive.
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| Quote: JB Down Under "The European nations at moment are too far behind to be competitive.'"
France, Italy (with their NRL players), Scotland, Wales and Ireland and maybe even England Knights would be a good Euro comp
Fiji, Samoa, Tonga PNG and maybe even NZ Maori would be a good PI comp
Leave the big 3 to play each other, let the others grow stronger themselves and personally, I'd like to see a 25% rule for these nations with 25% of the squad actually being from the country they represent.....that's only 6 players from 24 so not too extreme, but a "start" in getting the local comps moving.
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| Quote: Leyther_Matt "Hope that Scotland got at least one home game in the Four Nations. And by that I mean making a proper effort and making an event of it at an established central belt ground in Scotland rather than taking the easy option and playing at Workington.'"
I agree, they have to make an effort to play at least one game in Scotland. Can then play another in Workington and then play England in the heartlands somewhere.
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| what was the attendance for scotlands final game v france?
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| Quote: brearley84 "what was the attendance for scotlands final game v france?'"
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| ahead of the Eng - NZ test series both Nations should be given a warm up game
Send NZ to France
and England should play Scotland, yes to give England a warm up but also to give the Scots a taste of what is to come in the 4 nations
Afterwards Scotland should play France the week after as a stand alone match
Ok only 2 matches each but could be vital for both nations, Keeps france going and gives Scotland some vital prep for the 4 nations
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| Quote: st "ahead of the Eng - NZ test series both Nations should be given a warm up game
Send NZ to France
and England should play Scotland, yes to give England a warm up but also to give the Scots a taste of what is to come in the 4 nations
Afterwards Scotland should play France the week after as a stand alone match
Ok only 2 matches each but could be vital for both nations, Keeps france going and gives Scotland some vital prep for the 4 nations'"
there is a rumour that NZ are playing HullFC at the end of the season as part of our 150th anniversary.
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| Pointless Scotland been in the 4 nations 3 heavy defeats coming there way even if they fill there team with Scottish Aussies
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| Quote: fun time frankie "Pointless Scotland been in the 4 nations 3 heavy defeats coming there way even if they fill there team with Scottish Aussies'"
but they earned the right to be in it
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| Can they be competitive?
Their squad for this years European Championships:
Danny Addy (Bradford Bulls), Josh Barlow (Swinton Lions), Sam Barlow (Leigh Centurions), Danny Brough (Huddersfield Giants), Harvey Burnett (London Broncos), Brett Carter (Workngton Town), Lewis Clarke (Edinburgh Eagles), Sonny Esslemont (Hull KR), Richard Harris (Warrington Wolves), Ben Hellewell (Featherstone Rovers), Alex Hurst (Tweed Heads Seagulls), Ben Kavanagh (Widnes Vikings), Corbyn Kilday (Wakefield Trinity), Ryan Manelly (Warrington Wolves), Nathan Massey (Canterbury Bulldogs), Joe McLean (Gloucestershire All Golds), Iain Morrison (York City Knights), Finn Murphy (Edinburgh Eagles), Lee Paterson (York City Knights), Brett Phillips (Workington Town), Callum Phillips (Workington Town),Gregor Ramsay (Easterhouse Panthers), Louis Senter (Halifax), David Scott (Doncaster), Jack Stewart (Hull KR), Oscar Thomas (London Broncos), Shane Toal (Barrow Raiders), Adam Walker (Hull KR), Alex Walker (London Broncos), Jonathan Walker (Leigh Centurions), Joe Wardle (Huddersfield Giants).
Add in Matty Russell who played in the World Cup (I think he was injured), Linnett and Wallace from NRL and Ferguson at Bradford.
Either way, they've earnt their chance.
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| Quote: brearley84 "but they earned the right to be in it'"
Its like Hartlepool Accrington Stanley Grimsby and Macclesfield playing off for a place in next seasons champions league one of them would earn the right doesn't meen it should happen
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