I think we will appeal this one. I was at the game and like stated previously, by both sets of fans, nobody seen anything.

He is un controllable at times and a real hot head but I think they've really targeted the player and not the decision here.

He's a class act, full of surprises, both good and bad but he Definately has that game changing ability that can help England beat Australia. His ability to offload a ball is second to none, Definately up there with the best in superleague, if not the best.

He last ban swearing at the referee was stupid on hocks behalf but this ban shouldn't even be considered. Absolute joke which has left his team mates fuming by all accounts.

Name these 'dangerous but disciplined' players. I can't think of another SL player who runs with anywhere near Hock's aggression and impact on form.

IMO we need him because people always underestimate just how physically hard Australia are in the pack. Every year we hear about how Peacock et al are 'better' than their opposition, and yet when push comes to shove our pack are almost as far off the pace as the backs.

Hock provides an x-factor, albeit with risk attached. Given that our pack for once might just be physically stronger than Australia, I personally would go all out to maximise that potential edge - and that's why I'd go for Hock. If it backfires sobeit, but we'll never beat Australia even with parity in the forwards, because our backs - particularly halfbacks - are so much weaker.

I do think with

Hock
Burgess
Burgess
Ellis
Graham
Roby
Westwood

Etc our pack is looking stronger than its best in years

i think hocks biggest problem is he likes to dominate in every tackle and he's lateral movement isn't good enough and a lot of the time it's out stretched arms instead of heavy contact with the shoulder and then he will get agitated and try to dominate the attacker 9 times out of 10 giving away stupid penalties...

Some of the bans he has received are stupid and wouldn't happen to most players, very similar to Morley with NRL.

But if i am honest i would rather go with a hard solid but effective grafter than an explosive x factor type player,,, as with Australia you have to compete in the arm wrestle and they wont tire before us.

Sorry that is incorrect, but either way you are not allowed to do it and no one grabs the ref.

I have no problem with Hock being aggressive and letting off his steam on the pitch, but there's no excuse for sheer cowardly acts like elbows into faces and eye gouging.

Australia will likely have Gallen and watmough "mixing it up". Won't hurt to have a mongrel in the pack!

Hock has been a penalty machine in his last few internationals and he's also capable of "crazy" plays which, if they come off everyone sings his praises but, when they don't work, it costs his team and I think we have better options.
Benny Westwood will be more than happy mixing it with anyone

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