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Quote: Bull Mania "Wonder what William Eve makes of all this!'"



The drugs in Australia are far superior to any drugs we can produce here, ours are second rate

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Quote: wire quin "Hasn't damaged cycling- raised its profile if anything'"


Yes it has. It might have brought it to the attention of people who would otherwise pay it no mind but there are sponsors dropping out all over the place, including those some who had been associated with the sport for decades. Rabobank, a Dutch bank, had just signed a new contract to sponsor their team which they themselves set up years ago. They are going to fulfill the contract, but the team is now called Blanco and Rabobank are effectively paying top dollar to no longer be associated with it.

The governing body has been at civil war with itself for over a decade now as they cover up, hide, and face the truth in different measures and at different times.

rlThis guy'srl trial has just started in Spain. They're not doing him for doping because it wasn't illegal in Spain. That's also why he doesn't have to name the tennis players, soccer players, swimmers and athletes that he also had on his books. They're actually doing him for "experimental medicine".

Names were passed on to governing bodies, including FIFA, and nothing has been done by any of them. FIFA don't even sign up to the WADA anti-doping controls.

Everyone's got their head in the sand pointing the finger at the same old sports up to their same old tricks. Scandals a-plenty on the horizon. Tennis next I bet, but soccer is still to come.

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Quote: christopher "The drugs in Australia are far superior to any drugs we can produce here'"


Quoted for truth. I blame the sun.

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Quote: bren2k "That's an intriguingly vague report - if they have specific evidence and allegations to make against individuals and clubs, I wonder why the need for such a mysterious statement?'"

That's just what I thought.

Would it prejudice any ASADA or WADA investigations? I'm unsure who is responsible for this kind of thing down under.

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You've named one large sponsor- Sky is the largest and best team in the world having joined the ranks of cycling during its biggest crisis. The No 1 aim of Sky was to win the ToF, cycling's flagship (and drug riddled) event within 5 years

Cycling is bigger now than its ever been and will grow further.

Lance Armstrong is known by more people today than ever before. Who would have known about Tyler Hamilton without drugs.

Cycling is in an absolute boom at the moment and when they get rid of the idiot at the top of the UCI it will go from strength to strength

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Manly and Cronulla have been visited by auditors,

www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/ ... 6572674068
Manly and Cronulla have been visited by auditors,

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Quote: Him "That's just what I thought.

Would it prejudice any ASADA or WADA investigations? I'm unsure who is responsible for this kind of thing down under.'"


The news report that I heard/saw mentioned organised crime being involved as well as match fixing and that a criminal investigation was launched,so presumably sub-judice applies.
Don't think the story ends here.The Australians ain't happy.

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Does this mean that the RFL will be docking all those 80s cups off the Pies?

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Quote: wire quin "You've named one large sponsor- Sky is the largest and best team in the world having joined the ranks of cycling during its biggest crisis. The No 1 aim of Sky was to win the ToF, cycling's flagship (and drug riddled) event within 5 years

Cycling is bigger now than its ever been and will grow further.

Lance Armstrong is known by more people today than ever before. Who would have known about Tyler Hamilton without drugs.

Cycling is in an absolute boom at the moment and when they get rid of the idiot at the top of the UCI it will go from strength to strength'"



I presume you mean the cycling boom in this country. Think that's more to do with Sir Chris Hoy, Victoria Pendelton and Sir Bradley Wiggins.

Just because people are watching the news about Lance Armstrong, doesn't mean they are into cycling.

Anyway, looks like it's going to cost the NRL $100 million sponsorship deal with Telstra.

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Nowt to worry about really, because as the BBC report says "two sporting codes under particularly close scrutiny, Aussie Rules (AFL) and rugby league (NRL) do not have much of an international profile."

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Quote: wire quin "You've named one large sponsor- Sky is the largest and best team in the world having joined the ranks of cycling during its biggest crisis. The No 1 aim of Sky was to win the ToF, cycling's flagship (and drug riddled) event within 5 years

Cycling is bigger now than its ever been and will grow further.
'"


Here, yes. Cycling is going through a boom here. In places where it has competed with football as the number one sport it is in a relative slump. These are the people who have been disappointed time and time again. They're the ones who lived and breathed the "now, finally we can move on" moments that have been happening every year since the Festina scandal.

Liquigas have left. HTC have left. Rabobank have left. Hell, we don't even have ex KGB friends of Putin competing with manufacturers of camping accessories any more.

Don't get me wrong, there's still plenty of money in it. And teams have always been here today and gone tomorrow. There's nobody in pretty much the entire history of the sport who can say they watch the same teams their parents did (if anyone even supports teams anyway, I don't really know anyone who does that).

Lots of big companies have left though. HTC were winning every race when they walked out.

Its saving grace is the number of sports that are going to go through this over the coming years. Everything's tainted.

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There was an article on this in tonight's London Evening Standard. I cannot readily see it on their website but it mau be there somewhere.

It suggested that there was a widespread problem in Aussie sport (although if I recall, apparently not cricket). It implied that Aussie Rules and Rugby League could be scandalised big time. There is tough talk coming out about cleaning things up. I am guessing this will be very serious and devestating. I think we'll be talking jail sentences and clubs closed down.

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From what I saw earlier, football and union will also be implicated- but as the NRL and AFL are dominant, they will get the kicking.

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Looks like the RLWC might be be on a level playing field then?

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