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Quote: Odem "It was going well untill you said ground record at Leigh. We shouldn't be having to play England games at such small venues. It should at least be in a 20-25k venue.'"


Wales v England crowds:

4 Nations 2011-10377

World Cup Qualifiers '07

Doncaster 11263
Bridgend 3249

European Championships '03

Leeds 2124

World Cup 2000

Wrexham 6373

European Championships '96

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Ebbw Vale 2111
Cardiff 8102
Hull 4786

European Championships '80

Hull 7557

European Championships '79

Widnes 5099

I could go on, but other than the 95 World Cup at Old Trafford it was 1953 the last time an England v Wales game got near 20k which is what you'd be hoping for in one of the 'bigger grounds' . And it was 19k at St Helens.

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I was shocked when International Rugby League was the lead sports story on local radio in Hampshire on Saturday morning.

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It's getting quite a bit of coverage now. Really good news for the game. The WC in 2013 could be massive if we build on this.

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A win at Wembley or the final is essential to keep the momentum going, the publicity is great but it isn't as good when they reveal we haven't won anything for 40 years

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: jonny the leyther "Wales v England crowds

Nice figures but look at the size of the target audience and tell me that such a small crowd is good? The marketing just isn't good enough. RU have it spot on.

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34k tickets sold for Wembley. Will they surpass 40k? That would make it a worthwhile effort.

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Quote: richardviking "34k tickets sold for Wembley. Will they surpass 40k? That would make it a worthwhile effort.'"

I read yesterday that 41k tickets have gone

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Quote: Odem "Nice figures but look at the size of the target audience and tell me that such a small crowd is good? The marketing just isn't good enough. RU have it spot on.'"


So, you expect 80k down for a RL match between England and Wales then?

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But if it becomes the sport it should be, then we will not be the exclusive minority sport that we secretly like being......

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Where have these reports come from? I havent read anywhere about the tickets sales.
Its great if true though, I'm really looking forward to both games

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Quote: Bethman "I was shocked when International Rugby League was the lead sports story on local radio in Hampshire on Saturday morning.'"


That's great ......... I was thinking how little coverage last weekend's games got .......... I didn't hear or see anything about the England v Wales game, in fact if I hadn't deliberately looked the score up on teletext on Sunday morning , I wouldn't even know who'd won

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Quote: MOT "Where have these reports come from? I havent read anywhere about the tickets sales.
Its great if true though, I'm really looking forward to both games'"


I can't wait, but most of the figures people are quoting never seem to have any links to a reliable source.

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Quote: Odem "It was going well untill you said ground record at Leigh. We shouldn't be having to play England games at such small venues. It should at least be in a 20-25k venue.'"



It should be, yes. The reality says otherwise.

If when we still can't sell out a 12k stadium, why bother? Which would you rather see as an advert for our game - 8% empty seats in a 12k stadium, or 50% empty in a 20k one?

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Before 09 it was 50% empty in a 10k stadium. Surely this is progress. Tiny acorns.

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Chorlton RL "So, you expect 80k down for a RL match between England and Wales then?'"


Without doubt it is achievable. RU do it with similar crowds at club level. Many tickets are sold through those clubs.

I think we could get huge crowd for these games with a succesful team, cheap tickets and good marketing in the NORTH. The potential is there. It is just a shame people don't want to go.

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