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Quote: loiner81 "Yep, you sound like it too. Funny how it's always those who've been into something for the longest time that like to hate on it's current state.
Everything was better when you were a lad, eh. '"


Hate? Why would I hate an initiative where at last there is a slim chance of a club from the Championship getting promoted to S.L?

Quote: loiner81 "And yet crowds are up, sponsorship is at record levels and there's never in the history of the game been more TV exposure. Go figure :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg
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Quote: The Devil's Advocate "Hate? Why would I hate an initiative where at last there is a slim chance of a club from the Championship getting promoted to S.L? '"


Goal posts moved, well done.


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Crowds are up, based on your flawed comparison system. '"


Oh god, not you too. Please feel free to offer an alternative.

Quote: The Devil's Advocate "
Sponsorship , I’ve no idea how you quantify this, but hasn’t the FTSE just hit new heights? '"


I've no idea, I do know we just signed a record TV deal amongst other new sponsorship deals.

Quote: The Devil's Advocate "
As for your bold statement about T.V exposure, are you referring to the two or three games on Sky each week, or maybe the plethora of R.L related press inches? '"


Bring back Scrumdown on ITV eh !!

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Oh, thanks for the emoticon proclaiming I’m stupid. '"


Hey, you started that with your sarcy "silly me" comment.

Quote: The Devil's Advocate "
I’ve no idea what this statement means, what with being stupid & all - #back-tracking'"


Really? Like for like is totally different to round for round. A part of this thread and countless other threads discuss both. #confusedmuch
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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg
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Quote: The Devil's Advocate "Hate? Why would I hate an initiative where at last there is a slim chance of a club from the Championship getting promoted to S.L?

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And just going back to this comment. Should we make it easy for part timers and teams that weren't good enough for SL to get back in? Is that really what you're now moaning about?
Should we bring back the glory days of clubs being promoted, getting battered every week before dropping back down to div1?
Let's play it in Winter too and only have a 45 minute highlight show on ITV.

THOSE WERE THE DAYS a014.gif
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Quote: loiner81 "And just going back to this comment. Should we make it easy for part timers and teams that weren't good enough for SL to get back in? Is that really what you're now moaning about?
Should we bring back the glory days of clubs being promoted, getting battered every week before dropping back down to div1?
Let's play it in Winter too and only have a 45 minute highlight show on ITV.

THOSE WERE THE DAYS
You really do appear to have a chip on your shoulder about something.

All I said was I’m pleased there is at last a pathway for clubs to return to the S.L, is there any need for you to go on a diatribe, especially as you’ve never supported a team in the lower leagues.

Not once have I “moaned”, neither have I mentioned any glory days & where have I cited winter rugby?

I assume you were one of William’s main protagonists, & presumably your trying to provoke me in the same manner – good luck with that one.

I didn’t realise this board had become The Rose Tinted Terrace.
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Quote: The Devil's Advocate "I didn’t realise this board had become The Rose Tinted Terrace.'"

Alas it has and traffic and instances of genuine interest are down as a result.

rlhttps://www.google.co.nz/trends/explore#q
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Quote: The Devil's Advocate "You (loonier81) really do appear to have a chip on your shoulder about something.'"


That has to be the understatement of the year icon_lol.gif
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Quote: Jim Pooley "Alas it has and traffic and instances of genuine interest are down as a result.

rlhttps://www.google.co.nz/trends/explore#q'"


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Quote: Jim Pooley "Alas it has and traffic and instances of genuine interest are down as a result.

rlhttps://www.google.co.nz/trends/explore#q'"


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In New Zealand

www.google.co.uk/trends/explore# ... cmpt=q&tz=
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Super league for some reason got 'huge hits' in October last year.

Unprecedented.

Maybe Flower should have got a bonus..... icon_smile.gif
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[b:3lwchg41][size=100:3lwchg41]February 9th 2008. Harlequins Rugby League v Wigan Warriors; Attendance [color=#FF0000:3lwchg41]8,041[/color:3lwchg41] Entire 2015 Season over 11 games: Total Attendance[color=#FF0000:3lwchg41] 8,050[/color:3lwchg41]. PROGRESS[/size:3lwchg41][/b:3lwchg41]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_73709.png
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In New Zealand

Good link....shows a fall in traffic
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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg
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Quote: The Devil's Advocate "You really do appear to have a chip on your shoulder about something. '"


Not at all. Quite the opposite actually although I do enjoy coming on here now and then for a bit of pointless bickering.

Quote: The Devil's Advocate "
All I said was I’m pleased there is at last a pathway for clubs to return to the S.L, is there any need for you to go on a diatribe, especially as you’ve never supported a team in the lower leagues. '"


Sorry for that then, I misread your post. It came across (to me at least) as sarcasm and considering some of your earlier posts that was a fairly easy mistake to make.

Quote: The Devil's Advocate "
Not once have I “moaned”, neither have I mentioned any glory days & where have I cited winter rugby? '"


Well you rebuffed my comment re the current TV exposure and pre-Sky we were limited to highlights shows in the Winter weren't we?

Quote: The Devil's Advocate "I didn’t realise this board had become The Rose Tinted Terrace.'"


It'll never become the Rose Tinted Terrace but it's nice to be positive now and then. More on here should try it.
My glass has been half-full since 1981 and it's had to be as i'm a Leeds fan. I suffered 23 years of pain. Things were that bad that most of the Leeds forum are still miserable pessimists, writing the club off every season, even after what's happened in the last decade. Try reading some of the posts on there from before this season kicked off icon_lol.gif
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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg
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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg
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Quote: Jim Pooley "Alas it has and traffic and instances of genuine interest are down as a result.

rlhttps://www.google.co.nz/trends/explore#q'"


Poor, even by your standards.
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[b:3lwchg41][size=100:3lwchg41]February 9th 2008. Harlequins Rugby League v Wigan Warriors; Attendance [color=#FF0000:3lwchg41]8,041[/color:3lwchg41] Entire 2015 Season over 11 games: Total Attendance[color=#FF0000:3lwchg41] 8,050[/color:3lwchg41]. PROGRESS[/size:3lwchg41][/b:3lwchg41]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_73709.png
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Quote: loiner81 "Poor, even by your standards.'"

I fail to see how graphical evidence that traffic a down is poor.......by any standards
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Anyone got any news on attendances? Hudds-Leeds looks down from the same fixture last year, its not great for a yorks derby.
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hudds v leeds (8759) 6381 (last years in brackets)
hull v salford (9821) 9385
saints v wakey (1070icon_cool.gif 10001
wigan v hull kr (12801) 11468
wire v widnes (10500) 10856
cas v dragons (5104) 5704

My maths is dodgy but that equates (i think) to - 4854 on the same fixtures last year. It could be a one-off though..
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