They gave him a four year deal and said they wanted to build a successful team around him, then signed nobody. They appointed a coach who wants to completely change the way he plays for the worse. They also guaranteed movement on the stadium front to give him a piece of mind to sign a four year deal and not surprisingly that has stalled and with news of Wakefields go ahead could mean Cas could wait even longer. Rangi is rumored to now be a father so maybe his loyalty has slightly changed in life and thinks a move away from Castleford would be better for his career and family.

I mean your not exactly the most appealing of clubs to sign for and neither are we, so that must say a lot that he would rather move to us.

Chase was signed as a relative unknown from St George-Illawara.
I think you are barking up the wrong tree if you are trying to have a dig at Castleford's youth development, particularly as you have raided us for Westerman and Arundle. And let's not forget where your current captain was developed. And indeed the fact you managed to sign your best payer of the last few years (Manu) after we brought him over from Australia as a bit of a wildcard. In fact, there must be almost as many Castleford trained players in your squad as Hull ones?
Add to this other Castleford trained players in SL and the number still playing at the club (far more than Hull) and your comment just makes you look daft.

He actually said that we will continue to [iinvest[/i until we win something. You've added the last bit yourself to twist the meaning. He's ploughing money into facilities, coaching, and youth development alongside spending on players - basically reversing years of [iunder[/i-investment by the previous owners.

Only in RL could someone willing to plough money into a club be demonised.

The most ironic post of the year!!! A Hull Fc fan slagging off Castlefords player development! Gotta laugh!! They had the pick of all the young hull lads for 10 years, before rovers got into super league. But it's Kaths and Agars fault! Smell what your shovelling.

No it really doesn't, I mean if you bothered to read my first post you will see I explain the current state of Hulls youth system. The point I am getting at (which again you appear to miss) is that you have called Hull for signing other teams players yet your club has done the same. As for Westerman he went to Cas from Hull.

So the only person barking up the wrong tree here is you as I have never claimed our youth set up is better. I just merely pointed out that yours is not perfect, I mean you wouldn't be were you are or were you have being the last ten years if it was so brilliant. Granted you have lost a few or your better academy players but that brings me back to a point earlier, they must be something your club is doing to put these players off staying.

I'm sorry - I didn't realise that AP had the ability to force other clubs to sell contracted players. How very dare he offer them a large sum of cash and then force them to accept it? It must be hell for the poor dears.

Maybe you should be asking why your club is willing to flog off the family silver rather than pointing a finger and a trembly lip at the big bad man from the East. Could it possibly be because they've been offered a fair price?

Are you for real??!!! Or just another typical Dull fan!!

Where have I criticised Hull for signing players from other teams? Every team has to, nobody can produce all of their own players. Not once have I written than what Hull are doing is wrong. However, it is wrong to have a dig at Cas' youth development which has produced its fair share of SL players, including some of your best players.

You use way too many question marks and exclamation marks for me to even bother to have the energy to talk to you.

That and I personally feel you just want an argument rather then a debate. When I pass the park one day , I may continue this conversation.

Not you personally, my post was in response to a post made by a Cas fan prevoiusly. The point I was making was not that Castlefords youth system is poor , more the fact that Cas themselves favor signing other teams players rather then blooding there own at times too.

You really didn't produce our best players either.

Why, don't you like to have a debate about how e your youth set up is, and why you have to buy a new team every year? Or don't you like that question???????

It's interesting that you seem to know the details of Chase's contract discussions. Can you do me a favour and provide some specific evidence that Cas "guaranteed movement on the stadium front", or have you just made this up?
It's also worth pointing out that Millward was the coach when Chase signed his extension, and Chase looked very happy to do so on the photograph of them together when this was announced. Watching the team every week, I could criticise Millward plently, but he has not changed the way Chase plays. In fact he seems to have given him more freedom (I think the word 'structure' is alien to Millward), and has the most try assists in SL despite missing about 6 games.

I think you'll find that the intention is that Castleford are trying to build a homegrown team and supplementing them from teams from other sides. Indeed, most of the younger players we've signed are ones that haven't been given a fair crack or been released by their respective club, i.e. Emmitt. Next season, we'll have Owen, Shenton, Clark, Huby, Walker, Milner, Holmes, Massey, Thompson, Clare, Atkinson, Brierley, Johnston, Martin and Dan Fleming all in the first team squad and training full-time. All of which have come through the Cas academy. 15 players isn't bad going is it? 12 of which have come through in the licensing period.

The only reason we can't retain them is a) facilities b) pressures from licensing and c) money from other clubs (along with ambition/trophies).