Quote: dally messenger "its not 1995 anymore, as much as a keighley fan wishes it were.'" 2009 do ya www.sporthull.co.uk/hullcity/HUL ... ticle.html that ice is getting thinner now do ya self a favour and log off

Quote: dally messenger "its not 1995 anymore, as much as a keighley fan wishes it were.'" 2009 do ya www.sporthull.co.uk/hullcity/HUL ... ticle.html that ice is getting thinner now do ya self a favour and log off

5th aint a bad level is it

is this some kind of record , just 28 days into the decade and already dick of the decade is revealed

Mate, I could not agree more with the sentiments, or with the ideal scenario you very well dcescribe. But the question remains unanswered...how to get there? Its all well and good saying clubs should have a business model and all that, but - again - where is the income coming from? You simply cannot cut costs much more in most areas (unless you are lucky enough to have e.g. a Moran paying for Johns to come over or a Davy saying go spend the cap on Hodgson I'll underwrite it) without losing the best players to other sports or otherwise from the game completely. What would YOU do to create this sustainable business model? Not a meant to be a clever-dîck question, cos I've been struggling and failed miserably to answer it for years so I'm at a loss too!

Dally, I'm no apologist for some of the moronic Wakey fans (thankfully they have sensible ones too) who talk so much garbage on what they seem to think of as their own private fiefdom of a MB. But that comment is utter age and even you should be embarrassed with it, IMO. Wakey did a damn sight better last season than some clubs with fancy new stadia or great-on-paper teams, as well as my own team, and despite considerable adversity, so you are just reinforcing what seems to be the generally-held view that you are a complete wassock, I suggest?

directors putting money into a club so it can spend the full salary cap isnt the same as not being able to pay your tax debts

when wakey are booted out from SL next time ill be shown to be correct.

wakeys term in SL has been a failure.

2 semi final appearances (i think) in 10 years or so.

average crowds of 6000 or just under, 50% below the average crowd of the competition

wakey have wasted their SL spot and i think quite a few championship clubs could add more to SL if given the same chance

when wakey are booted out from SL next time ill be shown to be correct.

wakeys term in SL has been a failure.

2 semi final appearances (i think) in 10 years or so.

average crowds of 6000 or just under, 50% below the average crowd of the competition

wakey have wasted their SL spot and i think quite a few championship clubs could add more to SL if given the same chance'"

Only if they have a sugar daddy to bankroll them. Is that what we really want the competition to come down to? Who has the richest, daftest owner?

all clubs barring the expansion ones should be spending the full salary cap every year or close to it

if they arent and other clubs outside SL can, then the ones that cant should be booted out

wakey arent growing. crowds are static or falling. theyve failed on their promises to improve. better clubs are outside SL waiting to get in

when SL has every club spending full salary cap, watch how much better the competition it is.

the whole idea of franchising is clubs improving or getting kicked out

thats what the RFL will be saying when they read of wakeys promises for a new ground next time.



Shut the f##k up you boring monotonous tw#t.'"

if you dont want clubs reliant on outside income sources you can drop the salary cap down by 400,000 pounds or so and watch even more players lost to union.

its a fact of life that to succeed in SL you need very large crowds, or outside income sources

One concern for wakefield fans may be that they had a large unpaid tax bill in a strong on field season in 2009.: They had difficulty with gates despite having a strong season (5th + a top 18s side). While hopes are high a dip in performance in 2010 could see gates fall further. The tax went unpaid in 2009 despite the club raising an undisclosed amount through the sales of shares.

There is at least the possibility that the 2009 bill has been paid with 2010 season ticket money + Atkins money + 2010 replica sales. This uses money that would normally be used in 2010. The scope for share options and transfer fees will be limited in 2010.

The trouble is...in that statement you are totally correct.