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| Quote: Daddycool "It’s over a number of seasons and tracks every player who has been through your scholarship and academy programs and where they eventually end up'"
Thanks for replying and answering this.
So on this point, how do they determine who falls into whose scholarship/academy? If for example, someone starts on Wakefield Scholarship but leaves at 18 and joins say the Leeds academy and players 2 seasons there, before going to say Huddersfield at the age of 20 where he makes his senior debut, who actually gets the credit?
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| Quote: Fully "Thanks for replying and answering this.
So on this point, how do they determine who falls into whose scholarship/academy? If for example, someone starts on Wakefield Scholarship but leaves at 18 and joins say the Leeds academy and players 2 seasons there, before going to say Huddersfield at the age of 20 where he makes his senior debut, who actually gets the credit?'"
I think the credit for this would be split but I’m not entirely sure
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| Not so long ago I remember the question being raised of whether we should take academies away from the clubs and centralize them as regional academies. The argument was that some big clubs could cherry pick the best whilst other academies acted as a seive. The suggestion was that the likes of Wigan and Leeds benefited at the expense of other clubs. Although a fair point it does not take into account the money and effort put into the game by the more successful clubs. providers
Like the parent club, success at academy level depends on being able to attract and hold onto the best. This often includes being able to offer a good standard of education and life training as well through links with outside providers. That way even players who do not make the grade have something to fall back on. All of this takes time and money. I certainly do not begrudge any club the chance to have first pick because without our best academies the whole system would need complete reorganisation but as others have suggested it is more complex than the original question suggests.
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| Just from the current squad:
Lomax
Swift
Percival
Makinson
Grace
Smith
Richardson
Thompson
Roby
Lees
Ashworth
Wilkin (I know but played academy first)
Knowles
I don’t think any other Team could get close to that level of academy trained quality for a starting XIII.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Just from the current squad
The Giants aren't far off, all these have played 1st team this year
Mcintosh
Cudjoe
McGillvary
Leeming
English
Lawrence
Sam Wood
Jake Wardle
Innes Senior
Louis Senior
Ollie russell
sam Hewitt
With Dickinson and Kirby also in the squad but not feautred in SL this year.
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[b:2boqkfe7][color=#800000:2boqkfe7]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONS 2017 & 2024
SUPER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1998, 2010, 2013, 2016, 2018, 2023 & 2024
CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024
LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010, 2012, 2020, 2023 & 2024
ACADEMY GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019 & 2024
WOMEN’S GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2018
BEST SUPPORTED CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010, 2011, 2012 & 2024
CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010 & 2012
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Burgess
Manfredi
Marshall
T Davies
Gildart
Williams
Powell
Sutton
Farrell
Lockers
Ganson
Shorrocks
Wells
Field
Forsyth
Higginson
Bretherton
Kibula
M Davies
Woods
Partington
Worthington
Mullen
Paisley
All played first team this season (apart from Manfredi who’s due back next week).
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[b:3w2ur1db]Superleague Titles[/b:3w2ur1db]
Warrington Wolfs - 0
Wakefield Trinity - 0
Leigh Centurions - 0
[quote="Budgiezilla":3w2ur1db]Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.[/quote:3w2ur1db]: |
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| In terms of quality produced, consistently, you have Wigan, Leeds and Saints. Then daylight between the rest
Regards
King James
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| Quote: Lebron James "In terms of quality produced, consistently, you have Wigan, Leeds and Saints. Then daylight between the rest
Regards
King James'"
You've just been told Wakefield were third last year after Wigan ans Saints but above Leeds and Cas by the clubs CEO - so what bit don't you get.
Agreed it's a snapshot of just one 12 month period however I'd love to know where you get 'daylight' comment from, where's your proof for the las recorded 12 month period?
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| Quote: vastman "You've just been told Wakefield were third last year after Wigan ans Saints but above Leeds and Cas by the clubs CEO - so what bit don't you get.
Agreed it's a snapshot of just one 12 month period however I'd love to know where you get 'daylight' comment from, where's your proof for the las recorded 12 month period?'"
He meant in terms of quality over time I'd assume, not numbers produced.
Even you'd admit that James Roby is better than Kyle Wood right?
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[b:3w2ur1db]Superleague Titles[/b:3w2ur1db]
Warrington Wolfs - 0
Wakefield Trinity - 0
Leigh Centurions - 0
[quote="Budgiezilla":3w2ur1db]Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.[/quote:3w2ur1db]: |
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| Quote: vastman "You've just been told Wakefield were third last year after Wigan ans Saints but above Leeds and Cas by the clubs CEO - so what bit don't you get.
Agreed it's a snapshot of just one 12 month period however I'd love to know where you get 'daylight' comment from, where's your proof for the las recorded 12 month period?'"
Im talking longer than 12 months. The key was “consistently”
Regards
King James
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| Quote: dboy "Paul White and Matty Dawson were Wakefield products!
(Or did White com to Wfd from Hudds/Bulls??)'"
Paul white started at hudds
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Just from the current squad
This group have a lot more Grand Final Winners medals
Jack Walker
Ryan Hall
Kallum Watkins
Jimmy Keinhorst
Ash Handley
Ashton Golding
Ben Jones Bishop
Jordan Lilley
Luke Gale
Danny McGuire
Liam Sutcliffe
Brad Singleton
Mikolaj Oledski
Paul McShane
Robbie Mulhern
Nick Scruton
Chris Clarkson
Carl Ablett
JJB
Stevie Ward
Cameron Smith
Josh Walters
Alex Foster
Jodie Broughton
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| Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "This group have a lot more Grand Final Winners medals
Jack Walker
Ryan Hall
Kallum Watkins
Jimmy Keinhorst
Ash Handley
Ashton Golding
Ben Jones Bishop
Jordan Lilley
Luke Gale
Danny McGuire
Liam Sutcliffe
Brad Singleton
Mikolaj Oledski
Paul McShane
Robbie Mulhern
Nick Scruton
Chris Clarkson
Carl Ablett
JJB
Stevie Ward
Cameron Smith
Josh Walters
Alex Foster
Jodie Broughton'"
That’s some squad Leeds have this year
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[b:3w2ur1db]Superleague Titles[/b:3w2ur1db]
Warrington Wolfs - 0
Wakefield Trinity - 0
Leigh Centurions - 0
[quote="Budgiezilla":3w2ur1db]Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.[/quote:3w2ur1db]: |
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| Quote: Gronk! "He meant in terms of quality over time I'd assume, not numbers produced.
Even you'd admit that James Roby is better than Kyle Wood right?
<REMOVED - No Need>'"
Thankyou. That’s what I meant.
Regards
King James
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