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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Cant you read?'"
There are times when trawling through your 10000's of posts I wish I couldn't!
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Cant you read?'"
Perfectly thanks , but understanding the point you are trying to make is getting increasingly more difficult , even for yourself as well it would seem
By the way , I asked you about the rules that needed changing to give any new Crusader club a fair deal , i'm still waiting for that one ?
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"But that is =#FF0000obviously impossible. It is so obviously impossible it is embarrassing. =#FF0000How, in reality, can they receive extra financial assistance and it not benefit them on the field? =#8040BFIf they receive financial help that they use on marketing or on youth development then that is money they would have had to spend on marketing or youth development that they no longer have to that they can now spend 'on the field'. Which you have just stated you dont want them to..'"
Which bit ?
Simple , by being excempt from promotion out of Championship 1
Can you actually re phrase this one so that normal human beings can understand it ?
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"You also want to insist that they play by exactly the same rules but then want to =#FF0000allow them extra dual reg players, which of course precludes them playing by the rules.And by doing these things which you want them to do, you also want them to be precluded from =#FF0000moving forward.=#4000FFI also dont see why they would need to employ expensive overseas players, im not sure anyone but you has mentioned it.'"
The dual reg issue is as an alternative to any extra quota places , which you knew , but chose to ignore
Can you quantify ' Moving forward ' in this situation ?
See the Quota explanation
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Cant you read?'"
Can't you spell?
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| Quote Guerrier="Guerrier"Can't you spell?'"
Cant you tell the difference between spelling and punctuation and grammar?
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Perfectly thanks , but understanding the point you are trying to make is getting increasingly more difficult , even for yourself as well it would seem '" The point I was making here, which thought was quite clear, was the point you were responding to bore no relation to what I had said
Quote StarbugBy the way , I asked you about the rules that needed changing to give any new Crusader club a fair deal , i'm still waiting for that one ?'" A fair few. As a standout the Salary Cap would make it impossible for them to compete on a level playing field, but as you have already admitted you don’t want a level playing field you want it stacked against Crusaders, even going so far as to preclude them from promotion im sure that wouldn’t bother you.
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"Which bit ?'" The bit where you want them playing by the same rules but then insist they play by different rules, Quote StarbugSimple , by being excempt from promotion out of Championship 1 '" like this
Quote StarbugCan you actually re phrase this one so that normal human beings can understand it ?'" Its fairly simple, Whatever investment or funding the RFL give Crusaders will result in a benefit to them on the field. It will do this because whatever the RFL fund, Crusaders no longer need to, and can use that money to strengthen themselves on the field.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"The point I was making here, which thought was quite clear, was the point you were responding to bore no relation to what I had said
=#FF0000A fair few. As a standout the =#FF0000Salary Cap would make it impossible for them to compete on a level playing field, but as you have already admitted you don’t want a level playing field you want it stacked against Crusaders, even going so far as to preclude them from promotion im sure that wouldn’t bother you.'"
But you dont actually tell us on here
So you want a bigger salary cap for a club that has recently gone into administration , had to borrow £ 700 K from the RFL and then found itself unsustainable due to lack of income ?
Brilliant 
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| How can a salary cap prevent an even playing field? Surely it is a good safety valve to prevent clubs going bust, if applied stringently and fairly?
Also, surely its an incentive for clubs to improve their business plan if they are unable to spend the full cap?
It may even allow crusaders to pay some of the RFL their £700,000 back!
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"But you dont actually tell us on here
So you want a bigger salary cap for a club that has recently gone into administration , had to borrow £ 700 K from the RFL and then found itself unsustainable due to lack of income ?
Brilliant
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Just because it they have it, doesn’t mean they need to spend it. Not everyone is as stupid as you are. But it does mean when they are in a position to spend it, they are in a position to compete and not hampered by rules but in place by and for heartland clubs.
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| Quote freddies wig="freddies wig"How can a salary cap prevent an even playing field? Surely it is a good safety valve to prevent clubs going bust, if applied stringently and fairly?
Also, surely its an incentive for clubs to improve their business plan if they are unable to spend the full cap?
It may even allow crusaders to pay some of the RFL their £700,000 back!'"
Because if Leigh for instance are surrounded by SL clubs, with the overspill from their academies, are competing with Crusaders for a player, and you are that player who are you going to choose to play for? Leigh offering you £10k a year or Crusaders for the same amount who are quite a bit further away?
So logically, Crusaders would need to offer a bit more to make themselves attractive to those same players.
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