Interesting.
Leeds' annual turnover is in excess of £10m. £1.6m of that is spent on "the team". Presumably the other £7/8m don't count?

Where does that go? I havent seen balance figures in a couple of years, how are Leeds doing profit wise. I heard some sale artificially boosted a figure not so long ago but I cant recall what it was

How much of the £7/8m is spent on image rights?

but really, what do toulouse offer? nothing against them, but ive been there twice at the height of summer when everyone has other holidays to pay for and the traveling support have still outnumbered them significantly on both occasions. besides them being in france i fail to see the attraction. and no, simply being in france is not really enough.

That was a couple of years ago, the club sold the cricket stadium to Yorkshire cricket for about £10m. Some of that was used to build the Carnegie stand, some will be used to rebuild the southstand. The rhinos still turn over between £10 and £11m and make a couple of hundred grand profit

What do Widnes have to offer? If we use their Championship attendances, their championship turnover, Championship squad etc, etc. the answer is exactly the same as Toulouse, sod all.

Like Widnes, Toulouse's admission to SL would be based on their potential to grow whilst in SL. The attendances at Toulouse arent that different to UTC's attendances before Les Catalans admission. They have plenty to offer when they are ready to step up.

Sorry - that doesn't answer my point at all.

Oh and by the way, success in business in measured in profit, not turnover.

I wasn't on about success, although a £3m profit is pretty good. You suggested that "the team" is all that a club is. I was pointing out that under 20% of Leeds' income is spent on the team, so if that's all that a club is what is the other 80% spent on?

The first team? So the U20s, U18s, U16s, scholarship players etc … they just don't count?

or coaches, back room staff, front office staff, owners, physios, CEO's or strangely the fans.

This is the strongest commodity in Rugby League. London has sheet loads of it. So does a club in Wales. We've got potential coming out of our ears. I'm literally coming over the potential our game has got.

I give up.

Not one of you have any soul left about you. Why do you all support your team? What lit the spark which said that 'Insert Team name here' was yours? What keeps the fire burning in your belly? Was it your CEO, physio, admin assistant, ground staff or U20's?

Be honest for a change.

Was it chuff!!!

But these are in place to ultimately feed into and improve the first team.

, have you noticed how quickly the Widnes fans have grown their ' SL goggles ' ?