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Quote: snowie " Toronto has never ever produced any player fact, they never had an academy system fact and never intended to have one either fact now please stop the crying they are gone end off FACT

at least Featherstone Rovers are bring it back at the lower level
Good post, other "facts" point to Catalans and Toulouse not having Academies either let alone TV deals icon_smile.gif Sadly they offer no more that Toronto did..........

And as such are bigger failures than Salford, Wakefield and Huddersfield will ever be.

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Quote: The Silent H "Toronto have got nothing to do with the failings of the three mentioned clubs.'"

when are you going to stop this constant raging about failings making you look like petulant child, none of the clubs have walked away from the game Widnes have chosen to do the same as Featherstone as their have other super league on their boundies two of the mentioned clubs are in the championship but you're chasting them for not having academies
Salford have budgeted and chosen do the same, ever thought that they might just want to keep afloat rather than not paying their bills

as for Toronto they did fail massively and had an oppertunity to correct it but walk away, the last time Iooked Salford, Widnes and Featherstone are all operational and looking forward to 2021

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Quote: Donnyman "Good post, other "facts" point to Catalans and Toulouse not having Academies either let alone TV deals I can't agree with on this on as at least they are linked to St Estève XIII and Toulouse are linked to Toulouse Broncos XIII

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Quote: snowie "I can't agree with on this on as at least they are linked to St Estève XIII and Toulouse are linked to Toulouse Broncos XIII'"


Oh dear! Another poster giving Donnyman the facts.

Still,the fact he seems to have made,that by promoting Leigh Centurions to Super League will lead to a huge surge in Sky take-up,when it wouldn't work while they were in The Championship, is a real eye -opener.

Sky will certainly pay out more on the next broadcast deal,now.

Oh,wait...

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Quote: Ornery Optimist "Oh dear! Another poster giving Donnyman the facts.

Still,the fact he seems to have made,that by promoting Leigh Centurions to Super League will lead to a huge surge in Sky take-up,when it wouldn't work while they were in The Championship, is a real eye -opener.

Sky will certainly pay out more on the next broadcast deal,now.

Oh,wait...'"
come on you
Toronto blamed Covid for their dimise surely the reduced broadcast deal can also be blamed on covid or are you another one with blinkers icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Ornery Optimist "Oh dear! Another poster giving Donnyman the facts.

Still,the fact he seems to have made,that by promoting Leigh Centurions to Super League will lead to a huge surge in Sky take-up,when it wouldn't work while they were in The Championship, is a real eye -opener.

Sky will certainly pay out more on the next broadcast deal,now.

Oh,wait...'"


I love it how numpty's have some kind of inkling as to what and why would be the reasons for Super League receiving more funds for the next TV deal. Sky have NO competition whatsoever, even 'cheap & cheerful' Premier Sports are no longer involved.

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Quote: snowie "I can't agree with on this on as at least they are linked to St Estève XIII and Toulouse are linked to Toulouse Broncos XIII'"


Come on Snowy mate, Leeds were "linked" to Hunslet etc some years back but that did not provide the professional development Leeds operate now.

Superleague clubs run foundations to maximise kids exposure to RL and the best go through the academies they run. How can you excuse Catalans from having an academy when they DID run an academy in the past and it was a strong one. They stopped bothering and that was a disgrace.

They had the whole of France to recruit young players from.........

Wakefield would not get into Superleague by stating when asked about an academy they said they were[i "linked to Doncaster"? [/i

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Quote: Donnyman "Come on Snowy mate, Leeds were "linked" to Hunslet etc some years back but that did not provide the professional development Leeds operate now.

Superleague clubs run foundations to maximise kids exposure to RL and the best go through the academies they run. How can you excuse Catalans from having an academy when they DID run an academy in the past and it was a strong one. They stopped bothering and that was a disgrace.

They had the whole of France to recruit young players from.........

Wakefield would not get into Superleague by stating when asked about an academy they said they were[i "linked to Doncaster"? [/i'"


The product takes precedence over all. Tv money or development? Expansion can’t create development for 20 years! So the answer is TV money. Typical SL era.

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Quote: snowie "when are you going to stop this constant raging about failings making you look like petulant child, none of the clubs have walked away from the game Widnes have chosen to do the same as Featherstone as their have other super league on their boundies two of the mentioned clubs are in the championship but you're chasting them for not having academies
Salford have budgeted and chosen do the same, ever thought that they might just want to keep afloat rather than not paying their bills

as for Toronto they did fail massively and had an oppertunity to correct it but walk away, the last time Iooked Salford, Widnes and Featherstone are all operational and looking forward to 2021'"

You can't keep using Toronto as an excuse to ignore the issues of the clubs mentioned, as you just have.

Either way have a Merry Christmas.

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Quote: The Silent H "You can't keep using Toronto as an excuse to ignore the issues of the clubs mentioned, as you just have.

Either way have a Merry Christmas.'"

what issues have the championship clubs got

as for Toronto I'll keep reminding you of their issues and why they shouldn't of been in super league

yeap have a merry xmas keep safe and we'll start again next year icon_thumb.gif

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Quote: atomic "Expansion can’t create development for 20 years! So the answer is TV money. Typical SL era.'"


Thank you for the reply.

Not sure I agree expansion of the grass roots takes 20 years. Close to home Sheffield are 36 years on with little expanded?

Doncaster is a soccer town and nothing's expanded there since RL turned up in 1952

Les Catalans are on year 14 and are more an English team than ever

London are 40 years young and have some player development

Workington have gone 73 years losing over 9,000 speccies and scores of amateur players in the process

The answer is stability and you get that best (not perfect even then) along the M62.............

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Quote: snowie "

as for Toronto I'll keep reminding you of their issues and why they shouldn't of been in super league

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How about this icon_sad.gif

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Quote: Donnyman "

Not sure I agree expansion of the grass roots takes 20 years. Close to home Sheffield are 36 years on with little expanded?

Doncaster is a soccer town and nothing's expanded there since RL turned up in 1952

Les Catalans are on year 14 and are more an English team than ever

London are 40 years young and have some player development

Workington have gone 73 years losing over 9,000 speccies and scores of amateur players in the process

The answer is stability and you get that best (not perfect even then) along the M62.............'"


Ergo,over 100 years on the M62 ,and they have failed expansion.
Lots of M62 clubs have suffered financial problems.
Your easy one - liners fail to take in any of the issues affecting some of the clubs,lacking broadcast money,as they encounter external problems.
Your glib writing style epitomises the attitude of the lucky folk who own top rated clubs and benefit from money given to them for being in the top bracket - at the lucky period in time.
Wigan,Widnes and Bradford would suggest stability is not the best along the M62.

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Quote: Ornery Optimist "

Ergo,over 100 years on the M62 ,and they have failed expansion.

'"


Yes.

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