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| Quote: FearTheVee "We don't know that yet - the story may end up being the reaction of the sport of RL being universally supportive of the communities Folau's words target.
The wider sport can't control Folau's legal right to work for Catalans Dragons. It can, however, control its reaction to it and the early signs are that it will do so pretty well.'"
Today It Is A disaster but tomorrow it could be a victory.
It is now up to SL and the chairmen to turn victory into defeat..
Where is RLs. Jean de Vallette. !!!
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| Elstone reveals many informed voices within the game were against the signing and Wigan demonstrated their opposition by announcing their round six match against Catalans would be named Pride Day.
Is Elstone going to comment on every player that has expressed an opinion that maybe he and others don't agree with. He's set a dangerous precedent. It would have been interesting to hear his thoughts when Hardaker went to Wigan, Bailey and co went to prison then returned......the list of convicted criminals playing our game past and present is endless.
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| I'm not overly concerned, he's gone if he does it again and the negative PR will blow over in under a week.
I dont agree with his beliefs but he is entitled to them. His crime is broadcasting them publicly while representing an organisation. I feel there are enough safeguards to prevent it happening again.
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| Quote: secondstanza "Drunks, adulterers, liars, atheists all do so as their own choice. It's a more apt comparison to discrimination based on factors nobody chooses, like race and sex/gender. I image we wouldn't be taking the same "be reet" attitude towards him if he'd said all black people are going to hell. I also reckon the same people saying it's a mountain out of a molehill genuinely don't know the damage to LGBT people that normalising this does.
If you label anybody disgusted with homophobia as being a snowflake, showing fake outrage or anything of the like, all you are doing is telling us exactly what kind of person you are.'"
Nope again I wouldn't be outraged & it wouldn't change my opinion.
If IF said something along the lines of all white people will burn in hell then I genuinely wouldn't do anything other than laugh. The key part here for me is the hell part. An absolute fictional and made up concept that's as outdated as his beliefs. Why would you be bothered at the threat of something that is never ever going to happen? He might as well have said something as stupid as - if you're gay then you'll turn into a unicorn.
Now if he'd gone onto social media and called for mandatory gay conversion therapy, or for all homosexuals to be locked up or segregated from society, I'd rightly be outraged. That's actually something to worry about.
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| Super League has been the dumping ground for N.R.L. miscreants for many a year, & if all other clubs flinch,
there's always Catalans.
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| On the Wigan LGBT thing, if your team did the same thing, would you attend the match ??
I think it could turn out to be a disaster !
Who wants to see gay men and women flaunting their sexuality in plain view ?? which is exactly what happens at these events !!
No thanks !
I’m not homophobic, just old fashioned.
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| I hope he breaks his leg in round 1.
And I hope people think twice about giving their money to Catalans by going over there...
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| Quote: jammle "On the Wigan LGBT thing, if your team did the same thing, would you attend the match ??
I think it could turn out to be a disaster !
Who wants to see gay men and women flaunting their sexuality in plain view ?? which is exactly what happens at these events !!
No thanks !
I’m not homophobic, just old fashioned.'"
Do you think they will have same sex couples banging on the pitch or something? You stay at home with your pipe and slippers friend.
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| Good signing. Really looking forward to seeing him play. Won't be as good as he used to be but hope he's still got plenty of skill and a top player
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| Quote: jammle "On the Wigan LGBT thing, if your team did the same thing, would you attend the match ??
I think it could turn out to be a disaster !
Who wants to see gay men and women flaunting their sexuality in plain view ?? which is exactly what happens at these events !!
No thanks !
I’m not homophobic, just old fashioned.'"
No, ignorant AND homophobic, clearly never been anywhere near a Pride event.
If a heterosexual couple hold hands and kiss in public, are they "flaunting their sexuality".
What are your thoughts on people of colour, should they travel on the same bus as you?
Old Fashioned is not an excuse for bigotry.
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| Quote: jammle "On the Wigan LGBT thing, if your team did the same thing, would you attend the match ??
I think it could turn out to be a disaster !
Who wants to see gay men and women flaunting their sexuality in plain view ?? which is exactly what happens at these events !!
No thanks !
I’m not homophobic, just old fashioned.'"
You say your not a fan, but you must have attended a fair few to confidently state 'this is exactly what happens at these events'.
Anyhow yes I would go to the game.
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| Quote: wire-quin "Elstone reveals many informed voices within the game were against the signing and Wigan demonstrated their opposition by announcing their round six match against Catalans would be named Pride Day.
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Wigan are that opposed to it that Lenagan’s just been on 5 live as good as agreeing with the move and says that Wigan would have looked to sign Folau but don’t have space on the cap. Embarrassing after their initial stance, looks like an attempt at financial gain now.
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| Quote: sergeant pepper "Nope again I wouldn't be outraged & it wouldn't change my opinion.
If IF said something along the lines of all white people will burn in hell then I genuinely wouldn't do anything other than laugh. The key part here for me is the hell part. An absolute fictional and made up concept that's as outdated as his beliefs. Why would you be bothered at the threat of something that is never ever going to happen? He might as well have said something as stupid as - if you're gay then you'll turn into a unicorn.
Now if he'd gone onto social media and called for mandatory gay conversion therapy, or for all homosexuals to be locked up or segregated from society, I'd rightly be outraged. That's actually something to worry about.'"
Swing and a miss I'm afraid.
I'm sure nobody who is bothered about what IF has said is taking the comments literally. Chances are, if you believe hell exists, you're likely to agree with him anyway. It's what's underneath. Do you think he said what he said as some sort of public service? "Hey guys, nothing personal but gays go to hell, so you know, might want to stop that". Of course not.
As I said at the bottom, by downplaying what he's said because it's not actually going to happen normalises the attitude that LGBT people are different and should be treated differently. As wonderful the steps most of the western world has taken towards it are, until people stop shrugging their shoulders at comments like this there's still some ways to go.
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| Can't see Zak Hadaker wearing rainbow laces - that would be totally against his belief's.
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| Quote: Tigerade "Can't see Zak Hadaker wearing rainbow laces - that would be totally against his belief's.
Whatever Zak's personal and private beliefs are, I am sure he will abide by his employers decision.
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