'Dennis Betts bent my legs backward and tried to take my head home as a tea cosy'

Not to mention I was nowhere near fit or athletic enough to contend with the Rugby League Juniors I was playing against. I wasn't nearly tough enough nor did I have the aerobic capacity to allow me to stay involved beyond the first 10 minutes. The other players didn't like the fact that I couldn't throw them the ball without it bouncing at least once before reaching them and they didn't play fair because they wouldn't run straight lines instead they ran at funny angles. I did put one fabulous kick down field however the four unmarked players outside me didn't look too enamoured by it, all the worse was that the opposition full back refused to kick it back and ran the length of the field to score a try instead.

Any way Sam,
You've a lot to learn but you're a trier and will do OK if you just stick to the basics that you're capable of, head down, ar$e up and grind it out a yard at a time.

Cheerio

Will Greenwood

Spot on, patronising doesn't even cover it..

and Galliant, I admired Greenwood, one the best centres England RU had in that era but clearly knows jack shat if he thinks Robinson turned into one of the best out of hand kickers in the world..he was bloody bang average, even he would admit that. he stuck to what he knew & what he was top drawer at, running and beating people.

Oh? You've outed me apparently....lol.

Torbeck's post came from here - the entire thing's worth a read.....Will Greenwood had some back and forth on Twitter about it. www.guyjest.com/interpret-will-g ... m-burgess/

Torbeck's post came from here - the entire thing's worth a read.....Will Greenwood had some back and forth on Twitter about it. www.guyjest.com/interpret-will-g ... m-burgess/

What you apparently missed was that my post was a reply or a retaliation to the post I quoted.

Big Sam is playing again in Montpellier tonight. Bath winning 30-0 on 63 minutes.

Another messy, torrid, slow affair, currently being dominated by idiotic props slowing down the scrum, and terrible handling. One decent try so far. Yes, before anyone points it out, I know it's raining and muddy.

Sam hasn't had the ball yet, but is throwing his weight around to good effect, although he's aiming a little high with his tackles, in fact they've just pulled play back a ridiculous amount to penalise a challenge he made last Tuesday.

*Edit* - finally got the ball in hand on 72 mins, kept his legs pumping, hard to put down and was looking for non-existent support again. He's even made a kick! I counted 3 tackles, 1 run, 1 kick and 1 clean-out.

Must have a little man-crush on Sam Burgess to have sat through that.

That's two games of Union now and Sam has looked happy playing in both of them.

Moonies need to quit whining and just let go.

There are members of the Family Federation for World Peace and Unification on here?

A dire kick-fest in the rain in a two-thirds empty soccer stadium.

Had to sit through 50 minutes of that 'till Sam got on for the last half hour.

Poor, poor Bemused Sam. Standing around most of the time having to watch scrum after scrum after scrum after scrum after penalty after scrum ..... Guess he expended more energy in one minute of a Souths training session than in 30 minutes of that.

Counted 2 tackles, one carry and one clearing kick(!) by Sam.

Must be wondering already what he's got himself mixed up with. Top bloke though; won't let it get his spirits down. It's a short career though. The money compensation aside though, he might start thinking another 4 years intense rugby in the NRL and with England might have been a better fulfilment of his talents.

Still wish him all the best though.

He must be laughing his arus off at the amount they are paying him to stand around doing nothing!

elsom has only ever played professional union and palu played union before st george. Thorn is a freak.....and the vast majority of cross code league to union players are backs......Burgess will quite possibly do well, but if it were as easy as you think, everyone would be doing it.

spot on gutters, hape and farrell snr show its not that easy but with the springbok leouw mentoring him , hopefully he'll do well

5 hit ups and 7 tackles a game, how hard could it possibly be?

Surely the fact that Hape and Farrell were both good enough to play union for England suggests precisely the opposite? I don't disagree with the point you're trying to make btw but the truth is that league converts have, on the whole, been fairly successful.