Nope. But you have to be very bloody guilty of something very bloody bad for it to mitigate, even the slightest bit what flower did.

He punched an unconscious man, a man he knocked out. That's the only relevant information. Flower did that. Whatever his reasons, motivation, temper, provocation, flower punched someone in the head who was entirely incapable of defending themselves whilst that person was suffering a traumatic brain injury he had caused.

AS IVE TOLD YOU ALREADY, FLOWER STARTED IT BY PUNCHING HOHIA IN THE HEAD ,SO TELL ME HOW YOUD REACT TO SOMEBODY DOING THAT TO YOU?

So pleased that a rugby team won against a team whose gameplan by their moron coach is to hurt opposition players at every occasion and hope to get the win

Wigin were crap to only score 8 with all their half backs on the pitch ,wouldnt you say?

What's a midday meal and its positioning got to do with anything?

And I am being neither obtuse or do I lack comprehension of your arguement (and it shouldn't be an arguement really should it?) you seem to be missing the lead up to LH swiping out in your defence of mitigation for Flower's actions (and that is exactly what it is).

I. like the vast number on this thread, are neither Saints or Wigan followers. I don't hold bias to either side but I do hate this attitude of blind following or partially sighted following (of which you are very guilty).

You haven't come out and gone uber Flower's defence (as did happen with a few Leeds fans during the recent investigation) but you are defending him by saying LH caused his own beating.

Have a think about that, don't think for one minute.

The only thing i have sen that comes close to that in a game of rugby was when Duncan Macrae assaulted Ronan O'Gara in a Lions game.

He was given a 7 match ban.

Flowers IMHO was worse.

I have never ever seen in a game of any sport a player full bloodedly kneel down and punch an unconcscious opponent man in the face.

That was without doubt the worst thing i can ever rember seeing in any sport.

Even cage fighters stop when the opponent is knocked out and that is being gracious to call that a sport.

It really really was terrible

Agreed, indefensible really.Do not want to see that on a rugby field again.

If he gets less than double that ban he'll be getting off lightly.

I appreciate you were at the game so wouldn't have as good a view as those of us who saw it on the tv but let me just stress Hohaia was ALREADY out cold when flower bent down and hit on the floor

Worse or not does that really matter? is that supposed to allay some of the guilt maybe?, it doesnt take away Flowers intent which was absolutely shocking .If I was Lance i would take legal advice for assault.

Firstly you can't press charges for an offence on a rugby pitch, stop being stupid.


Secondly as I said I'm not trying to justify or allay any guilt, just trying to find out what happened. Bored on the train on the way back init.

Agreed, I was sickened when I first saw the replay.

Sickened.

You can actually! might give flower a few sleepless nights...

Quote: Wigg'n "Firstly you can't press charges for an offence on a rugby pitch, stop being stupid. Secondly as I said I'm not trying to justify or allay any guilt, just trying to find out what happened. Bored on the train on the way back init.'" You are very wrong about your first sentence. It has happenned in multiple sports. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7672351.stm en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarrod_McCracken Always good to know the law when you quote it eh?

Quote: Wigg'n "Firstly you can't press charges for an offence on a rugby pitch, stop being stupid. Secondly as I said I'm not trying to justify or allay any guilt, just trying to find out what happened. Bored on the train on the way back init.'" You are very wrong about your first sentence. It has happenned in multiple sports. news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7672351.stm en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jarrod_McCracken Always good to know the law when you quote it eh?

There are two pieces here.

You can't press charges for what goes on, on a rugby pitch but the police can. The law of the land doesn't stop on the edge of a rugby pitch. Would it happen, I think not.

I'm sure however Hohia could take a civil action if he wanted to. It would be open and shut.

You should be careful before you call other people stupid.

I think you mean second and third. The first was in the run up to the main incident