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| Quote: keighley1 "Cudjoe and Mcgilvray on one wing and Watkins and Hall on the other with Tomkins at FB and a fired up Chase at halfback plus the Burgess bash brothers,
James Graham, Roby, big Earl et al up front. Surely we can trouble the Aussies with that lot. I can't wait. Hope I'm not too disappointed.'"
Im sorry, but Mcgilvray? You would leave out the leagues top try scorer for Mcgilvray? are you Steve Macnamara?
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| Quote: easthullwesty "Im sorry, but Mcgilvray? You would leave out the leagues top try scorer for Mcgilvray? are you Steve Macnamara?'"
He can't be Steve McNamara as McNamara picks charnley. Strange dig at the Enhland coach from you there.
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| Much as I like McGillvary he isn't an England winger really
Cudjoe and Charnley down that flank is a mouth watering prospect though
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| Quote: meast "on his day,leroy cudjoe has everything you want from a class centre, strength,pace,great footwork,good defence and the ability to create space for his winger, at the moment only probably Watkins and crooks are on the same level.'"
crooks! thats got to be a joke.
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| Quote: keighley1 "Cudjoe and Mcgilvray on one wing and Watkins and Hall on the other with Tomkins at FB and a fired up Chase at halfback plus the Burgess bash brothers,
James Graham, Roby, big Earl et al up front. Surely we can trouble the Aussies with that lot. I can't wait. Hope I'm not too disappointed.'"
wouldnt complain at that team!
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| Quote: brearley84 "crooks!
Crooks had a bad day at wembley (as did most of the team) coming off an injury that should have ruled him out for another two weeks, but his form before that was ripping teams apart. Should be a shoe in for young player of the year. at 19 years old, there isnt a centre in the league I would swap him for.
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| Quote: easthullwesty "Crooks had a bad day at wembley (as did most of the team) coming off an injury that should have ruled him out for another two weeks, but his form before that was ripping teams apart. Should be a shoe in for young player of the year. at 19 years old, there isnt a centre in the league I would swap him for.'"
thats fine you can keep him
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| Quote: easthullwesty "Im sorry, but Mcgilvray? You would leave out the leagues top try scorer for Mcgilvray? are you Steve Macnamara?'"
I take your point but the familiarity of Cudjoe and McGilvray as a unit working together might trump Charnley but he should certainly be in the squad and all should play in the group games to determine the best combinations for the later stages.
To be fair, the quality and number of players available to England is higher than for many many years. Outside of those wingers in this discussion, you could add Briscoe, Broughton, Jones Buchanan,, Dixon and some others and any one would do a creditable job.
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| Quote: keighley1 "I take your point but the familiarity of Cudjoe and McGilvray as a unit working together might trump Charnley but he should certainly be in the squad and all should play in the group games to determine the best combinations for the later stages.
To be fair, the quality and number of players available to England is higher than for many many years. Outside of those wingers in this discussion, you could add Briscoe, Broughton, Jones Buchanan,, Dixon and some others and any one would do a creditable job.'"
I just dont see McGilvray as an international standard winger, certainly not from the times I've seen him. That said, I dont see him every game.
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| Quote: keighley1 "Outside of those wingers in this discussion, you could add Briscoe, Broughton, Jones Buchanan,, Dixon and some others and any one would do a creditable job.'"
Briscoe perhaps, the rest are not international class, some nowhere near (Dixon?! He would get absolutely ripped to shreds). Assume you mean Jones bishop rather than jjb
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| Quote: GIANT DAZ "Cudjoe was class yesterday, but he is most weeks. Maybe because he isn't one of the 'flair' players who gets lots of media coverage he gets overlooked by people at times. Him and Watkins, in my opinion, are the best 2 and both will only get better in time too.'"
Doesn't get media coverage because he doesn't do live interviews. Coaches all rate him though.
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| Quote: easthullwesty "Im sorry, but Mcgilvray? You would leave out the leagues top try scorer for Mcgilvray? are you Steve Macnamara?'"
you seem to be neglecting the fact the leagues top scorer, wouldn't be playing hull kr and wakefield, and not using wigan's only set play of obstruction supreme.
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| Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "you seem to be neglecting the fact the leagues top scorer, wouldn't be playing hull kr and wakefield, and not using wigan's only set play of obstruction supreme.'"
And yet he's still scored nearly twice as many tries against the same opposition. Mcgilvray is a good winger, Charnley is a very very good winger.
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| As a player charnley, so you can't really leave him out! As a combination Jerry and Cudjoe which could also work out for the best. That's if either of the 3 are picked.
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| Quote: easthullwesty "And yet he's still scored nearly twice as many tries against the same opposition. Mcgilvray is a good winger, Charnley is a very very good winger.'"
Charnleys a decent winger, a pretty good finisher, who happens to be very very very fortunate he plays on the right wing at wigan, against teams that them selves because they can't defend against wigan's one set play and also dont know how to defend against sam tomkins in this set play as well.
If you use your eyes watching wigan matches, and then a little bit of common sense,charnley and tomkins being 1 and 2 in the try scoring charts is somewhat skewed.
As i say, england wont be playing hull kr and wont be playing wakefield, they'll be playing NZ and Australia who'll defend a gazillion times better than SL sides, him being top try scorer won't be worth diddly.
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