That doesn’t even make sense as a statement.

Must try harder.

Do you have a link for that information? Haven't seen S/C mentioned anywhere?

Are you new to the game of RL?

You have to be pretty bad to be able to spend nearly half as much again on wages, and still not be able to finish in the top 4 of an 8 team league where half of them are semi-pro.

Im not saying its beyond our chairmen to f@ck it up, but still………

They can mess around with the League structure all they want...as previous posters have stated its down to lack of money in our sport.

The people at Red Hall can't find or generate enough (down partly to the Stobart disaster). Until the ones at the top are replaced by people who are better the sport won't go forward.

Money aside, as this is obviously the main stumbling block, I think it could work.

11 games played before the split (5 at home, 5 away and one at magic weekend). The challenge cup could be started earlier so that more rounds are played earlier in the year. The final round of games before the split are played at the Magic Weekend on the bank holiday at the beginning of May, with the challenge cup final on the bank holiday at the end of May.

Then the split occurs, giving three leagues of 8 with everyone playing each other home and away, giving every team 25 league games in total.

Not read all the thread but have the other 3 options been posted ?

As I understand it there are 4 proposals which will be voted on at the end of the season. These are....

1. The split league structure as per this thread

2. Retain the current league structure with 1 up / 1 down P&R between SL and Championship

3. SL1 of 12 clubs, SL2 of 10 clubs with automatic P&R between them

4. 4 leagues of 10 with automatic P&R between all leagues

Correct. We've got very poor leadership. Thus a lot of what they propose is daft, and when they do propose something sensible, they're not competent to implement it.

Your point is depressingly true - it's all effectively hot air anyway, because self-justifying clowns remain in charge whatever we do.

It's a total mystery to me why the sport tolerates it. I'm amazed we haven't had breakaway threats from various groups, whether the top 8, or the championship, or both.

Because as soon as they did that the morons who infest the game would suddenly realise the people who are really to blame are the clubs themselves. God alone knows why they get such a free ride, especially with the marketing of the game.

The RFL’s marketing isn’t great but it is infinitely better than that done by the clubs.

The RFL are a very convenient scape goat.

The reason the clubs can appear 'moronic' is that there's a huge amount of diversity in what's 'good' for one club, given (not least) their vastly different earning potentials. Any committee formed of such a diverse group is highly unlikely to produce something optimal, or even near optimal, for all. It's like a bunch of people wanting to cross a river and unable to decide on a raft or a bridge so building half of each.

Which is precisely why the game needs very dynamic leadership from the centre. Leadership powerful enough to win the respect of various stakeholders, and get things done which are good for them in the long-term. One way to help prove that dynamism, and win respect would be an aptitude for finding sponsorship and money. It's amazing how much more willing people are to listen when you've produced some cash. Frankly, whether the lowest championship side, or the highest SL side, if I were a club chairman, my attitude would be: "why are we listening to a bunch of people that can't even find a sponsor? Marketing advice from Red Hall? You're having a laugh surely?"

Similarly, if you were the RFL chairmen you would think why am i dealing with such poorly run clubs who dont attend seminars on sports science and youth development, dont come to the meetings we run on best practice, dont listen to the advice of the clubs who are succeeding, dont take advantage of what we offer them,

and why am i getting the blame for their failure.

When the RFL are doing things to help clubs be successful, and the successful clubs are implementing them and being successful, and the not successful clubs dont even bother to turn up, then whatever adjectives you want in a 'leader' wont make a blind bit of difference.

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I'm astounded that the 5th option hasn't been mentioned:

Stop buggering around blaming everyone else for any problems in our game and put the time and effort in to make what we've got work

I don't like the idea of replacing bad teams with worse ones, no. Making teams play other teams at a similar level would be much more interesting imo.

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Must be catching,




the SL team finishing bottom = Automatic relagation
the Championship Team finishing top = Automatic promotion
the SL team finishing 2nd from bottom join 2nd 3rd 4th ,championship sides in a play off , overall winner taking the other SL position