Realistically what is the teams aim for the season? Win the GF or get into the play offs? Making improvements doesn't mean it IS of the calibre of the DW, HJ, Galpharm etc it COULD be after the improvements. Fair assesment to me.

Yep getting into the playoffs and keep improving on and off the field. What every club should be aiming for. Only a few will ever win a cup, especially with the "flexible" salary cap we have in SL. To suggest those teams that can't win a cup are a waste of time being in SL is laughable.

You mean like Rovers did?

Youve been in oz for too long, like HKR we all lose out to SL clubs for the best juniors, crowds are dropping off and sponsors just tell us to come back when we are ' in '

It's not laughable at the start of the season what were the goals? get in to the play offs/ top eight? Justin Morgan a couple of years ago said he thought HKR would win and from an outsider looking in that was your best season and if that momentum would have been kept then maybe you could be challenging for trophies. On the field how many overseas signings have been confirmed for the 2013 season by HKR? How many youth players have come through the youth system in the last 5 years? And take out HKR and put Salford, Wakefield, Cas, London into the equation, what would you say then?

Catalans are prime example as well both been in SL for similar amount of time they are now third in the table and are a very good outside bet for the GF.

I think your wrong on a couple of points Maurice.
Wakefield and probably Cas will hit 10k in supporter numbers when their new grounds are complete, both are around 8k now and surely there will be some "bounce" when they are in s their new stadia.
London only have backing commitment until the end of the current franchise perion and then we have to wait and see, but thier current situation apart from location in the capital does not justify inclusion in SL.
Widnes will continue to improve and with some success they will start to show a vast improvement in supporter numbers.
Salford is a difficult one. A new ground and some improvement in attendances but they will take much longer than the others to acheive 10k.

The only thing were missing is an accountant That can make 2.2 mill look like 1.6mill when it comes time to submit wage receipts!

hehehe Or paying the tax on time.

JUST KICK THEM OUT AND START AGAIN

Thought more Bradford supporters would have turned up at the HJ yesterday considering they were being given back the gate receipts. Do they want a club in Bradford?

It could be that they are all saving up for the next bucket collection once the extension on the extended deadline is extended

The latest update has Guilfoyle blatantly blackmailing the RFL!

If you can't pay the bills, reduce your costs and sell some assets!

Any sympathy for the Bulls plight is waning very quickly.

Assets have been devalued massively by administration. Why pay for something that will be free very shortly. Other clubs are businesses at the end of the day and not charities.

The income from player sales may well be diminished, but the money that can be saved on player wages is a massive factor!

If Bulls aren't paying too many players too much money...where is/has the money gone, from a club that clearly generates a huge income?

And now the latest bid from ABC looks like going the same way as the first.

rlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/19049462rl

And if the RFL don't pay the wages and the Administrators firm wont cough up, then I guess they are really staring down the barrel, and as a Widnes fan, I'm wondering if I have a game to go to at the weekend. I hope I do, because, in the same way as I'm not going to blame the fans for the boards mistakes, you can't blame the fans for the rather shoddy way the Administrator and the ABC guys seem to be going about things. I know some fans of other clubs are starting to lose sympathy, but it's not the club that is doing this, it's the administrator and ABC. And the RFL seem to be acting in a fair manner as well, by not bending to the conditions (or blackmail as someone else put it!).

According to news from a public meeting tonight the administrator has extended the deadline to the 31 August, so he's obviously confident he'll be paid for work done up until then.

I can only imagine that means the RFL have agreed to pay the August wages/advance due payments again.