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| Quote: Easty "And Mcmanus?
Not as moronic as Hudgell
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| Quote: Code13 "Ahhh your problem is you think everything would be fixed instantly. It's a common problem in RL.'"
No, my PROBLEM is with fans who consider "Progress" unquestionably beneficial provided it is solely on their terms on no one else's.
Quote: Code13 "We are starting to see a backline that can challenge that of the Aussies, maybe halves too (though this is dependant on the coach not picking the Leeds loose forward at stand off)'"
You'll forgive me for waiting until we do start sticking it to them rather than agreeing exclusively on the evidence of a crystal ball.
Quote: Code13 "But of course, it the fix isn't instant effective we need to return to the system that's never worked. Ever.'"
Yes, because that's precisely the course of action all fans advocate. Aren't you clever.
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| rfl isn't bankrupt, its the clubs who over spend on players, mainly sub-standard, don't get the crowds they hope for then go whinging to the press in hope of some compassion and handout! imo of course
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| Quote: number 6 "rfl isn't bankrupt, its the clubs who over spend on players, mainly sub-standard, don't get the crowds they hope for then go whinging to the press in hope of some compassion and handout! imo of course'"
spot on.
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| you can't make a silk purse our of a sows ear. The game needs to be strong, in the publics mind and perceived as an exciting sport to follow as much as clubs need to market better and attract fans to their clubs.
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| Quote: JB Down Under "you can't make a silk purse our of a sows ear. The game needs to be strong, in the publics mind and perceived as an exciting sport to follow as much as clubs need to market better and attract fans to their clubs.'"
And that would be better achieved by foregoing Sky money and giving the game away to FTA?
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| never said such a thing, I said they should get the game on FTA, if it means a short term hit on sky exclusivity, whatever that may be worth (given Sky only show two SL games a week I doubt many subscribers sign up purely for the RL anyway), . Get the game on FTA, get a million people watching it a week and see the interest grow, the corporates get more interested and the media start to sit up and take notice. At the moment it is hidden from 2/3rds of the country.
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| Sky wouldn’t be interested without exclusivity.
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| Quote: JB Down Under "never said such a thing, I said they should get the game on FTA, if it means a short term hit on sky exclusivity, whatever that may be worth (given Sky only show two SL games a week I doubt many subscribers sign up purely for the RL anyway), . Get the game on FTA, get a million people watching it a week and see the interest grow, the corporates get more interested and the media start to sit up and take notice. At the moment it is hidden from 2/3rds of the country.'"
What makes you think FTA television - which effectively means either BBC, ITV, C4, 5 or a Freeview broadcaster with an even smaller viewer base than Sky - has any interest in turning over two hours of its prime time weekend programming to a minority sport like rugby league, even if it got it for free?
There would still be costs involved to the broadcaster in running an outside broadcast, hiring in freelance presenters etc, with no evidence of being able to make these costs back through increased advertising.
Premiership rugby union has no live FTA coverage. Even the current best Test cricket side in the world has no FTA coverage. Why would anyone be interested in RL?
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| Undoubtedly RL is in difficult times. Last time there was a big recession, and when SL came along, clubs sold grounds to survive and span it is a great new dawn, moving to newer stadia. As I pointed out then, come the next economic downturn or a cut in TV funding there would be no assets to mortgage to keep things going. So, difficult times ahead.
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| Quote: "As I pointed out then, come the next economic downturn or a cut in TV funding there would be no assets to mortgage to keep things going. So, difficult times ahead.'"
The country's been in recession since 2009, so RL's done pretty well to cope with the economic climate so far. A lot better than the High Street, I might add.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "What makes you think FTA television - which effectively means either BBC, ITV, C4, 5 or a Freeview broadcaster with an even smaller viewer base than Sky - has any interest in turning over two hours of its prime time weekend programming to a minority sport like rugby league, even if it got it for free?
There would still be costs involved to the broadcaster in running an outside broadcast, hiring in freelance presenters etc, with no evidence of being able to make these costs back through increased advertising.
Premiership rugby union has no live FTA coverage. Even the current best Test cricket side in the world has no FTA coverage. Why would anyone be interested in RL?'"
Do you know of any links to UK TV viewing audiences? I'd be interested to know what current Sat & Sun afternoon viewing figues are across the channels.
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Quote: Dreamer "You have perpetuated this myth on another thread and been shown to be wrong.
Please give evidence that shows how the RFL helping Keighley obtain an underlease on their ground has made them into "the manchester city" of the championship.
And I don't include the pre-match mind games of a coach with one of his ex players as proof.'"
Are you going to give an answer anytime soon, or are you just firefighting on every thread you post on?
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| Quote: JB Down Under "never said such a thing, I said they should get the game on FTA, if it means a short term hit on sky exclusivity, whatever that may be worth (given Sky only show two SL games a week I doubt many subscribers sign up purely for the RL anyway), . Get the game on FTA, get a million people watching it a week and see the interest grow, the corporates get more interested and the media start to sit up and take notice. At the moment it is hidden from 2/3rds of the country.'"
I only have sky sports for rugby league I can not stand wendy ball if sky did not have rugby league i think i would slash my throat if it was not on only kiding
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| I am really weary of this reduce the number of clubs mantra.
It always comes from those who feel it would benefit their own clubs.
Reduction would be a backward step.
The game would have a lower profile and therefore even less monies coming in.
The answer is exactly the opposite in my opinion.
Bring in more gradually , with a lower salary cap, limit foreign imports to two per club ,and bring in a higher number of locally produced players who must be included in each 17 on match day.
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