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Quote: Tricky2309 "Funny that because until todays announcement you were one of those papping on about how good Crusaders were.'"


Not heard that for years icon_smile.gif

But your quite right he is one of the half dozen idiots who constantly defend the indefencible.

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Quote: headhunter "No I wasn't, I was simply challenging morons who were making unfounded claims about the club. Crusaders are a joke and their withdrawal is for the best. That doesn't mean Wakefield or Halifax are any better. When interviewed on Sky, the Halifax chairman came across as an absolute dinosaur who seemed to think that his club had some sort of right to a Super League place simply because they had been in the competiton before. Wakefield have continually failed to deliver on their promises, to all intents and purposes they are a Championship club and they must be one of the luckiest sporting entities in the world to have so narrowly avoided dropping out of Super League on so many occasions. Neither club is good enough for Super League.'"


Oh you mean like those that have just been proven to be true?

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Quote: Tricky2309 "

The comments he made today about Wakey, I would expect to come from a Fax fan on here not the main man at a professional sports club.'"


Im glad our chairman is a Fax fan. Hes also a solicitor so i would imagine that his comments wernt just made on a whim but who knows. Not like its going to come out in the wash is it.

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[quote="King Street Cat":1wa9s43t]Some might look at this as being harsh but I think it's fair. When are the Rugby League going to stop persisting with this fantasy expansion. If it hasn't worked by now, it never will! I'm all for reaching out to a wider audience with our game but not at the expense of historical clubs in the homelands.[/quote:1wa9s43t]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6731.jpg



Quote: Tricky2309 "Oh you mean like those that have just been proven to be true?'"
No, I mean the ones that were unfounded, such as that the club were massively exaggerating crowds to try and impress the RFL, or that the team was made up entirely of Australians and contained no Welsh players. I never once defended the owners or made false claims about the financial status of the club, if you weren't so ignorant you would have seen this.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Kosh "I've no idea. Personally I think it's a bad move, much like the removal of the 50% of turnover limit from cap spending. What price the encouragement of financial stability now?'"


You have no idea , so you admit to being stupid ? , sounds about right

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



The Crusaders were doomed from the start , you did not have to ba an accountant to see they were unsustainable

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Quote: a.n Other "When are the renovations of Bell Vue starting?'"




probably never, but wait about 2 and a half years and they will promise to have it done for the next round of licensing !

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Quote: Starbug "You have no idea , so you admit to being stupid ? , sounds about right'"

I admit to not [iknowing[/i why the insolvency criteria was removed. I doubt you [iknow[/i either, but I also doubt that you're able to admit it or tell the difference between knowledge and speculation. You also appear to be unable to converse like an adult.

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I have only been wrong once and thats because I thought I was wrong but I was wrong I was right! Petty authoritarians aren’t man enough to challenge the actions of a person face to face; instead they incite a forum of rumour, innuendo and half truths, and impose rude sanctions to discourage those who dare question fairness. Anon.:simpsons/simp048.gif



Quote: GIANT DAZ "probably never, but wait about 2 and a half years and they will promise to have it done for the next round of licensing !'"


The RFL made it very, very clear that if sufficient progress was not made then they could de-franchise said team(s).

I take this to read that if a suitable candidate appears before the application date and if a "C" team is behind on its promise the RFL could "do a swap".

It will be interesting to see what happens if Halifax correct all the franchise "issues" and get a backer with some cash.

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Quote: Greg Florimos Boots "Im glad our chairman is a Fax fan. Hes also a solicitor so i would imagine that his comments wernt just made on a whim but who knows. Not like its going to come out in the wash is it.'"


God I wouldn't want him representing me :

(1) he has made all sorts of assumptions based on limited knowledge of another clubs situation (afterall he hasn't seen our franchise application)

(2) says the RL have ignored their own rules re clubs going into admin, despite an announcement when Crusaders went into admin that it would not preclude clubs applying for a SL licence in the future (the clubs agreement to this was also probably with one eye on the image rights tax issue which if it goes against the clubs could push some other clubs down the admin route)

(3) Slates our ground but it is clear we have announced plans to upgrade it for 2012 and if the PI on NM goes our way, that will start being built next year. Plans seen and clearly approved by an independent firm of professional property consultants

(4) Says your results on the field have been better than ours - failing to recognise you have been playing in a different league and against part time opposition.

So to summarise, I would say he hasn't thought through his comments before making them today and may well regret them on reflection over the next few days.

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Kosh "I admit to not [iknowing[/i why the insolvency criteria was removed. I doubt you [iknow[/i either, but I also doubt that you're able to admit it or tell the difference between knowledge and speculation. You also appear to be unable to converse like an adult.'"


Yes you do know , but because you have a penis stuck out of your head you won't admit it

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Quote: Starbug "The Crusaders were doomed from the start , you did not have to ba an accountant to see they were unsustainable'"


I'm not sure that's strictly true but it would take a lot of effort (and it appears that the Scorpions, having started at the bottom, are making some progress).

It will need someone with money, who understands what appeals to the Welsh, who can produce some genuine welsh stars (and or some big name converts from RU who take well to RL in the mould of Davies, Gibbs, Quinnel etc), and who can win (at least their home games).

A big ask , but not impossible.

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: Dreamer "The RFL made it very, very clear that if sufficient progress was not made then they could de-franchise said team(s).

I take this to read that if a suitable candidate appears before the application date and if a "C" team is behind on its promise the RFL could "do a swap".

It will be interesting to see what happens if Halifax correct all the franchise "issues" and get a backer with some cash.'"


That will only happen if Wakefield or Cas do hit a major obstacle in their stadium plans. As such, if the the PI does fail next March (which looks unlikely), Wakefield will struggle to get an alternative stadium sorted within the franchise period and could dip out a year early because of this. I think Cas will have the full three years because their issue is funding and it could take a couple of years yet to get planning for Tesco on WR, but think it will happen. The RFL have to give them both chance to succeed and if they don't, then one or both are out on their ears.

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Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "That will only happen if Wakefield or Cas do hit a major obstacle in their stadium plans. As such, if the the PI does fail next March (which looks unlikely), Wakefield will struggle to get an alternative stadium sorted within the franchise period and could dip out a year early because of this. I think Cas will have the full three years because their issue is funding and it could take a couple of years yet to get planning for Tesco on WR, but think it will happen. The RFL have to give them both chance to succeed and if they don't, then one or both are out on their ears.'"


And if both succeed , no more Championship clubs going up

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: Starbug "The Crusaders were doomed from the start , you did not have to ba an accountant to see they were unsustainable'"


Not sure they were always doomed but I think they were doomed when Moss and Roberts (I love the Wrexham FC fans version - Mo$$ & Robber) were allowed to do a phoenix with the club and the financial issues around Wrexham FC grew.

Talking of people who couldn't see the true picture... where is SmokeyTA?

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