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| Quote: SmokeyTA "there is a top 25, but that isnt really relevant here
the RFL have a register of all players, They are either registered with a club or as a free agent.
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When a player leaves a club or is de-registered they are moved to the 'free agents' list. Whether or not they are intending to re-join their club, join another one, or never play RL again, they are bound by the RFL's operation rules for 12 months from this point.
[iA Player shall be bound by the Operational Rules upon submission to the RFL of a correctly
completed Official Registration Form and other documents as set out below or as required
from time to time. Twelve months after a player is declared a Free Agent under the
Operational Rules he shall no longer be bound by the Operational Rules provided that he
has not completed another Official Registration Form. The Player agrees to be bound by the
Operational Rules until that date.[/i
now there are three ways a player can be removed from a pro clubs register
[i(c) in the case of Professional Players with a current contract registered with a Club
But under all circumstances he no longer has a valid playing contract with said club. Therefore, due to him not being a contracted player, a conditional contract player, or a contract expired player, he is a free agent.
Nobody is arguing that HKA cant get rid of one aussie and replace him with another. Simply that for the time being Dobson is a free agent (due to not being on the HKA register, therefore he has to be a 'free agent') and that according to rule
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He shouldnt be able to be re-registered this season, without dispensation.
If that dispensation is forthcoming, it should be explained why.'"
The last time I can remember this issue coming up was when Warrington had to dump an overseas player to allow them to sign Andrew Johns. I think it was Graham Appo who was the unlucky player to miss out and I specifically remember people saying that he wouldn't be allowed to be re-registered that season. It is a big call to de-register Dobson and the worrying thing is that its such a big decision that it makes you think maybe they have already cleared his return with the RFL 1st before doing it. The only other thing (as others have said) is that maybe Dobson's injury means he would be out most, if not all season, in which case, de-registering him would be the sensible thing to do.
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| Quote: vikings 4 ever "The last time I can remember this issue coming up was when Warrington had to dump an overseas player to allow them to sign Andrew Johns. I think it was Graham Appo who was the unlucky player to miss out and I specifically remember people saying that he wouldn't be allowed to be re-registered that season. It is a big call to de-register Dobson and the worrying thing is that its such a big decision that it makes you think maybe they have already cleared his return with the RFL 1st before doing it. The only other thing (as others have said) is that maybe Dobson's injury means he would be out most, if not all season, in which case, de-registering him would be the sensible thing to do.'"
Regarding his injury, he has had his pot removed and is making good progress. On track for the 10 week time out.
I would then turn to your other point and could see no other option then Rovers have a) agreed his re-registration with the RFL, or b) have indeed "terminated" his contract (but had him sign another agreement preventing him talking to anyone) and will "re-sign" him in the coming days/week
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| I'm guessing the RFL have already agreed it, can't see HKR taking any risks with the No1 scrum half in the comp.
I guess the RFL are as keen to see Big Willie in SL as Hull Kr fans are!
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| Quote: JB Down Under "I'm guessing the RFL have already agreed it, can't see HKR taking any risks with the No1 scrum half in the comp.
I guess the RFL are as keen to see Big Willie in SL as Hull Kr fans are!'"
Guess again...
rlhttps://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/sport/HULL-KR-Dobson-s-free-agent-say-RFL/article-3319542-detail/article.htmlrl
Either the RFL lied in answer to a direct question or it's all up in the air.
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| Quote: Kosh "He's contracted for two seasons.'"
I thought he is now a free agent?.
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| Quote: Raised Elbow "I thought he is now a free agent?.'"
Dobson is, but we were talking about Mason.
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| Quote: Captain Charisma "Couple of quotes from Justin Morgans twitter
@RichardAgar is a fake account, which means that Morgan is either in on the joke and having a laff, incredibly gullible, or another fake account.
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| A feasible explanation for all this is that the HKR board have cocked-up big time. Given that even the most sensible business men seem to leave their brains at the door when they enter the boardroom of any sports club, this wouldn't suprise me at all.
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| Quote: JB Down Under "I'm guessing the RFL have already agreed it, can't see HKR taking any risks with the No1 scrum half in the comp.'"
What has Rob Burrow got to do with it?
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| Mason was threatening to sign for an Aussie club if they didn't get him over a.s.a.p
RFL and HKR are a joke.
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| Quote: Chris28 "What has Rob Burrow got to do with it?'"
Whilst I applaud the spirit, it's not a good time of the season to be lauding Leeds first team right now
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| Quote: Standee "RFL and HKR are a joke.'"
I don't quite see why the RFL are being considered a joke right now, Hull KR have asked to de-register a player as they have a right to do.
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| Quote: Him "I don't quite see why the RFL are being considered a joke right now, Hull KR have asked to de-register a player as they have a right to do.'"
do they have a right to fly a player into the UK that isn't actually eligible to play?
UKBA have questions to answer on this as well.
It's far from over.
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| Quote: Standee "do they have a right to fly a player into the UK that isn't actually eligible to play?
UKBA have questions to answer on this as well.
It's far from over.'"
I don't see why not, if he has a visa. I also don't see why the UKBA have questions to answer (other than their generally pathetically slow giving out of visas to RL players). He has a job with a British company, whether he can adequately carry out that job is between Mason & Hull KR, but either way Mason will still be paid by Hull KR whether he's playing or not.
The only people with questions to answer are Hull KR - if they intend to re-register Dobson in the future - and the Tongan authorities as to why it has taken so long for Mason to receive his Tongan passport.
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| Quote: Captain Charisma "
Couple of quotes from Justin Morgans twitter
These are both fake accounts mate.
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