One offload just tore England to shreds. It's going to be a looooooong tournament!

Try before half-time and it is pretty even despite the Kiwis having all the running.

Could be a psychological blow.

It's not an excellent try. Ryan Atkins is absolutely pathetic, scared to death of committing and hoping to coast through the game without having to make a tackle. Ridiculously poor defending.

England are just so poor it's untrue. 40 points would be a decent outcome, they can score whenever they want to. We cannot do the basics right, we cannot defend, we cannot go through the sets professionally and there is no spirit in the team whatsoever.

I just hope they can muscle up and beat PNG.

Horrible body language from England, Burgess wins a great penalty, NOT ONE England player congratulates him.

Still in it despite a poor first half England.

Let's find out if Macnamara can give a half time speech.

Great isn't he? An absolute joy to watch.

They can't play like this against Australia, England, or they will get flogged.

Ah, this is so frustrating. I had a pretty bad quality stream going for abou 10 minutes, which I was happy with. Now it's shat itself and doesn't look like recovering. Might go fix myself dinner and follow message board updates and wait for Channel 9 to show it near midnight.

Can I just say that from when Shenton got tackled the ref had 3 calls to make. Holding down on Shenton was pretty obvious and not given, then we should have had a drop out that was blatant and for some reason not given, then a massive forward pass to Luke wasn't given. Unbelievable reffing, obviously bias.

Started really poorly and Atkins is having a shocker, Roby didn't start off too hot either. We're still just about in this but need to start asking more questions about the Kiwis. Goulding, Shenton playing reasonably well. Tomins ok, Brown yet to convince. Would have like to see either Senior and Gleeson out there too...

That was a pathetic half i wouldnt mind if they where just outclassed but they arnt even playing anywhere close to potential or even how they play week in week out in superleague. Tomkins is getting wasted at 7

Sorry to hear that CGD.

England can only improve on that performance in the 2nd.

Awful opening 20 from England. Kicking game rubbish (we need someone like Deacon/Sinfield), completion rate crap, too many mistakes. Pack doing ok, but backs are just not good enough. Luckily NZ aren't firing 100%. If we started better we might have been in with a chance, but we've done too much defeding IMO, wouldn't be surprised if NZ win by 30+.

Widdop to 6, Tomkins to 1 and give Widdop control of everything. Having an NRL player control things might bring some aspects of a professional level performance.

Ryan Atkins, James Roby and Kevin Brown have been Englands worst players by a long way. Atkins and Browns reading of the defence as been nothing short of awfull. Roby looks drained.

Sean o Loughlin, Gaz ellis and Tom Briscoe have been stand outs.