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22/03/2013
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| Quote: j.c "so some SL chairmen will dictate RL policy
Common knowledge that the clubs have the decision on how many clubs are in SL , this quite simply gives them the power to decide how much SKY money they get
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| Quote: j.c "so some SL chairmen will dictate RL policy
Seemingly, yes. In this regard, apparently its the SL clubs that set the policy and the RFL that implements.
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| there are 14 teams in SL assuming 3 abstain and 4 vote against and 7 just think of themselves who would have the casting vote?
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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
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SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
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That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
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So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
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| Quote: j.c "there are 14 teams in SL assuming 3 abstain and 4 vote against and 7 just think of themselves who would have the casting vote?'"
Depends wether Mr Lewis threatens to resign again
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| Quote: Catalancs "Maybe he's thinking of building up international crowds and interest and believes that will bring in more revenue. Maybe he's looked at rugby union and seen how much a single international at Twickenham brings in for the RFU.
Personally I don't think it's the way forward for rugby league.'"
The RFU's accounts are available online, but I do recall that their income from corporate hospitality at Twickers alone is something like £26M per year, that's over twice the RFL's total revenue, purely in hospitality! But of course they do own Twickers.
I think ticket sales are something like £80M per year (although without loking them up again, that might be the total revenue figure). Suffice to say they make plenty.
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| Quote: Enfield Exile "There have been rumblings from various people in football about the state of pitches at Hull and Wigan (IMO the two worst grounds in the PL - but that's another issue). The pitches are a state and reduces the quality of the game for those who are paying good money to watch.
Wigan RL are in a stronger position? How? You pick up a few quid from SL every year. Latics get £20m.
I am mnerely playing Devil's Advocate. Unless you know the full details of the contract and are a lawyer specialising in this area, you cannot say with certainty what would happen.
In these circumstances, more often than not teh bigger enterprise wins i.e. Latics.'"
Think the tv money went up at the last deal - according to a BBC reportLast season, champions Manchester United earned £52.3m in Premier League television money, compared to £31.6m for bottom club West Bromwich Albion.
In a different report it also showed that Wigan earnt 6.8 million in prize money from the premier league (although not sure if this is part of the overall tv money or seperate). Either way Wigan probably netted £35-£40 million in tv +prize money.
If there are SL clubs talking of reducing the number of teams in SL, you can't help but think it will be the bigger clubs who either think they will get a bigger slice of the money or just scared that in the next tv deal there will be less money to go around. There's no way clubs like Wakey, Cas or Salford would vote to reduce the number of clubs.
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| not bothered reading all this thread
but the decision on the makeup of SL is solely up to the RFL and not the clubs
clubs all signed up to giving the RFL sole decision on certain things.
it would be a disaster to go back to 12 after just having expanded.
and 1/10 extra sky money for the remaining SL clubs wont make much difference
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| Quote: dally messenger "not bothered reading all this thread
but the decision on the makeup of SL is solely up to the RFL and not the clubs
clubs all signed up to giving the RFL sole decision on certain things.
it would be a disaster to go back to 12 after just having expanded.
and 1/10 extra sky money for the remaining SL clubs wont make much difference'"
The clubs have shares, so it is not soley up to the RFL. If it was, there wouldn't be this discussion. So just stop right there on that assumption so it doesn't drag into pages of you trying to prove something that your aren't sure is right to be right (because it isn't and it's just a waste of everyone's time).
And 1/10th of Sky money extra per year (going on the current contract) is roughly £110k each. Considering clubs are losing between £500k per year on average, that would be a good help in plugging some of the deficit (and that's before assuming there isn't an increase on top of that).
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| i read something where the RFL made all clubs agree to give them sole control over the number of teams in SL.
sole control.
so unless the RFL wants it, its not happening.
you read loads of cr*p on the internet, some people just dont bother reading much about the game and go off rumours etc.
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| lower the salary cap by 100,000 per club then.
better than losing 2 teams.
problem solved. pleased to help
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| Quote: dally messenger "i read something where the RFL made all clubs agree to give them sole control over the number of teams in SL.
sole control.
so unless the RFL wants it, its not happening.
you read loads of cr*p on the internet, some people just dont bother reading much about the game and go off rumours etc.'"
And this is some of that cr*p.
The RFL do not have sole control over what happens in the SL. Clubs have a vote. I'm pretty sure Championship sides have a vote also (it's weighted).
You have either misread something or have misunderstood something. But the point is the RFL do not have sole control. If you can point me in the direction of something that says otherwise then I will bow to your wisdom. But for now, it is a factless rumour started by yourself or someone you have read it from and you should try "bothering to read about the game" a bit more.
And reducing the salary cap will not happen. There would be all sorts of further ramifications from that (i.e. players going to union, etc.). If anything, we should be looking at ways to increase funding so we can increase the cap and make our sport a more attractive career path for players. So no, problem created not solved.
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| Quote: dally messenger "not bothered reading all this thread
but the decision on the makeup of SL is solely up to the RFL and not the clubs
clubs all signed up to giving the RFL sole decision on certain things.
it would be a disaster to go back to 12 after just having expanded.
and 1/10 extra sky money for the remaining SL clubs wont make much difference'"
The Bradford chairman Peter Hood stated quite categorically (3/2/10) that the decision on the number of clubs in SL was down to the SL clubs themselves. The criteria governing which clubs formed SL was down to the RFL.
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| well its quite a pickle, 12 teams = bigger share of sky money, but sky arnt daft, will they try to reduce the money if less teams are playing? i think they will.
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| Quote: Saint Simon "well its quite a pickle, 12 teams
That's what I would have thought.
Although, if you get rid of the weaker teams, you are showing the better teams more often on Sky, which one would think would attract a better audience. Maybe they'd prefer that?
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