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| Quote: bowes "Where would that be? It's pretty easy to expand a competition that until 25 years ago banned non-Sydney clubs into 2 states where RL was already well established and a single club from the whole of NZ (you Aussie trolls even said SL should have a new NZ club so the NRL didn't have to have both), only Melbourne are an expansion club and they're successful due to News Ltd funding alone. SL has 3 clubs outside the north of England, though I suspect that will be back to 2 soon, though eventually back up to 3 with Toulouse.
Of course I want it but until you I value quality and am not impatient. You as good as said yourself you'd rather risk ruining an expansion club and damaging the league than being patient and waiting 5 years (or 3 or 10?) for the time to be right just because you thought it was too long to wait. It really isn't long in the scheme of things and unlike you I'd rather expand right. I suspect you have a hidden agenda of wanting to get rid of expansion clubs by forcing them up early so they fold'"
not that im a fan of it, look what AFL is doing in australia.
they are putting clubs in places nobody cares about the sport and backing it with lots of money.
they are prepared to back their sport 100%
RL is a far better product and many of you lot are just scared to try anywhere expansionary unless the club is as good as a heartland club |
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| Quote: Redchemic "Spread to where though, the outskirts of Sydney?
It's only fairly recently (late 80's) that Queensland and Mid/Northern NSW got top tier rugby teams and then later on NZ.
Melbourne followed and it's fair to say they've all made a pretty good fist of it.'"
RL has been played in queensland prior to the NRL, NZ too.
heck brisbane had its own competition for near on 90 years.
lucky im here to help you lot |
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| so the key for expansion of current heartland clubs is cheaper public transport then?
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| Quote: Odemwingie "Like for super league we have criteria that the clubs aim towards to be awarded a spot. Less strict criteria could be used to get the clubs in the championship up to standard and more clubs could then apply for a franchise. With a stronger second tier of rugby league a lot more could be done in terms of stadia, attendances, spreading the game.... expansion could happen more naturally instead of being forced. All the top sports have great second divisons in this country.
The more clubs we get up to standard to apply for a franchise, the more competition there will be to get on in years to come, more competition for a franchise will force clubs to improve if there was a real chance they could be dropped next time around. Do you honestly think Cas and Wakey have felt any pressure at all untill now? The last franchise application was pointless.
Finally, people talk about how devastating it would be to send certain clubs down, they would go bankrupt etc. but with a stronger second tier there would be no danger if a club was not quite cutting it to send them down for a few years and let them build.
Personally I wouldmake the championship smaller and make sure only the best clubs are playing in it. IMO if you are not going to put in a franchise application, you shouldn't be in the championship. There are only 5 or 6 teams who will apply outside of super league, this is not enough IMO.'"
Too small already , you are never going to have more than 3/4 clubs in the Championship in a position to move up to SL , the focus should be on having as many as possible [ hopefully all one day ] self sufficient , ie they earn enough money to pay all their expenses of operating
How you do that is the problem |
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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four.....
......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation......
big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on'
[quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans.  [/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
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| Quote: dally messenger "heck brisbane had its own competition for near on 90 years.
lucky im here to help you lot'"
london has hads it own rl competition for 30 years, doesnt mean it made much of a differance. |
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| Quote: dally messenger "
RL is a far better product and many of you lot are just scared to try anywhere expansionary unless the club is as good as a heartland club'"
The thing is the RFL aren't all that rich so it would be imprudent. If the RFL had tens of millions spare each year I'd be all for it (though in places like Cardiff not Bridgend or Wrexham), but unfortunately they don't so we have to use quality standards |
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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four.....
......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation......
big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on'
[quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. [/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
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| Quote: dally messenger "
Thats your response to a valid point that doesnt agree with you?
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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four.....
......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation......
big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on'
[quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. [/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "Can we please not let dally derail another thread with the usual "everything the Aussies do is right and England do is wrong" boll*cks. It all ends the same way, he contradicts himself, gets humiliated, then runs off and ruins another thread.
Let's not feed him on this one as well.
If I'm not alone and people agree with me, give me a sign! "Let's make this a dally-free zone".'" dally free zone please. |
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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four.....
......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation......
big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on'
[quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. [/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "Should I bring out the Wellsy13 rugby league opinions continuum and see where he lays? ![]()
Why the hell not
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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four.....
......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation......
big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on'
[quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. [/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6]
[img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg |
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| Quote: tim791 "He's said time and time again that hes happy they are expanding it.
Just that they've had years and years to do this, and they do it now, expecting people to say well done for it.'"
What do you expect them to say? boo hiss? |
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| Quote: dally messenger "so for 113 years it was in clubs best interest to do nothing expansion wise.
but now because their SL spots will be determined on it they will do something?
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| Quote: dally messenger "how did australian clubs manage to spread the game in their areas?
i guess we mustve had better transport systems back in 1908
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err they didn't, hence why it took 80 years before the game moved beyond two states of the country at the top level and still has 14 out of 16 teams in the same areas.
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| Quote: bowes "The thing is the RFL aren't all that rich so it would be imprudent. If the RFL had tens of millions spare each year I'd be all for it (though in places like Cardiff not Bridgend or Wrexham), but unfortunately they don't so we have to use quality standards'"
who says its imprudent?
it shows that other sports are very keen to back their expansion
with RL its mostly a case of our sport is so good so well put no effort in, we expect them to do it on their own.
thats why it doesnt expand |
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