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| Quote: Big Graeme "Leigh, whats the point, an area we already have a strong SL team and they even had to have the RFL bail them out on Champ one...'"
APART FROM YOUR CHILDISH 'SLAGGING OFF' at LEIGH
ANSWER THE QUESTION
WHY DO WE HAVE HARLEQUINS ?
answers on a postcard ...................... |
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| Quote: Starbug "This is a discussion about SL , why bring Leigh into it ?'"
One of your fellow Leigh fans mate. |
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IMO: As it stands Widnes are best placed to enter SL, the only other teams that have met the criteria are Fax and Barrow.
As for who would miss out? Good question.
Would think that it will be between Salford, Castleford, Wakefield & Crusaders.
A case can be made for any of them to go, as well as most other teams in SL.
Don't know if I could pick one, but would think it would be between Cas & Wakie.
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| Quote: Pepe "If it was announced by the RFL that Widnes could not have been granted a licence, due the the recent administration, there could be no argument.
THIS DID NOT HAPPEN.
THE OPPOSITE DID.
This is what has led to the confusion.'"
Didn't the RFL say before the applications that Widnes could be have their application judged as a newly formed club? Then Widnes included some aspects of the pre-administration club in their application forcing the RFL to consider all aspects of the pre-administration club (including, going into adminstration). Or in the RFL's wordsThe club has been in the difficult position of seeking to take into account the club’s historical attendance and playing records but naturally distancing itself from the previous regime’s financial record'"
You either take into account the history of the club, warts and all, or you don't. You can't cherry pick the good bits and ignore the bad.
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[quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99]
Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.”
[i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair
with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99]
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| Quote: SBR "Didn't the RFL say before the applications that Widnes could be have their application judged as a newly formed club? Then Widnes included some aspects of the pre-administration club in their application forcing the RFL to consider all aspects of the pre-administration club (including, going into adminstration). Or in the RFL's words
It doesn't matter how the RFL phrased it in any way shape or form. The club was never going to get a licence because of their recent administration at the time.
A clubs support base doesn't change because the board of directors change. That will remain the same. It's financial viability will change and, on this case, most certainly did. Either way, Widnes had no chance of a licence.
Fine, but they should have said so, plainly and clearly, so that the club and it's supporters fully understand the situation.
They led Steve O'Connor down the garden path.
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//www.pngnrlbid.com
[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Pepe "If there was no chance whatsoever of Widnes gaining a licence, due to recent administration, why tell SOC otherwise, allow him to put forward a bid at great expense to the club, and then reject the bid soley on the grounds of the recent administration?
Why not tell SOC straight - YOU HAVE NO CHANCE?
Simple and honest, No?'"
because, as you are choosing to ignore, there was a chance, Widnes' bid just wasnt good enough to ignore the financial issues which had gone previously
they could however have submitted a better bid, that was good enough to ignore the financial issues which had gone before, but they didnt,
the RFL couldnt have known whether the bid they submitted was good enough or not until they had judged it, and they couldnt have judged it until it had been submitted |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "because, as you are choosing to ignore, there was a chance, Widnes' bid just wasnt good enough to ignore the financial issues which had gone previously
they could however have submitted a better bid, that was good enough to ignore the financial issues which had gone before, but they didnt,
the RFL couldnt have known whether the bid they submitted was good enough or not until they had judged it, and they couldnt have judged it until it had been submitted'"
Total bollox , and you know it , a £ 500 K cash bond was more than enough to even up any financial worries |
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On thread drift:
[quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99]
Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.”
[i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair
with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99]
[b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "because, as you are choosing to ignore, there was a chance, Widnes' bid just wasnt good enough to ignore the financial issues which had gone previously
they could however have submitted a better bid, that was good enough to ignore the financial issues which had gone before, but they didnt,
the RFL couldnt have known whether the bid they submitted was good enough or not until they had judged it, and they couldnt have judged it until it had been submitted'"
So you're saying that Widnes' administration wasn't a major issue which could've barred them from obtaining a licence? |
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Starbug "Total bollox , and you know it , a £ 500 K cash bond was more than enough to even up any financial worries'"
a £500k bond shouldnt have been needed, the fact the business plan showed it was needed as well as the losses Widnes have incurred since (as a going concern) show that to be a good decision |
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On thread drift:
[quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99]
Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.”
[i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair
with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99]
[b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "a £500k bond shouldnt have been needed, the fact the business plan showed it was needed as well as the losses Widnes have incurred since (as a going concern) show that to be a good decision'"
All those "losses" are part of the club restructuring that happened after SOC took over. Every penny was paid for by Syeve O'Connor in the form of a gift. Widnes vikings currently have no debts. |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "a £500k bond shouldnt have been needed, the fact the business plan showed it was needed as well as the losses Widnes have incurred since (as a going concern) show that to be a good decision'"
So any club with losses should not get a franchise by that logic
I'm sure you'll be happy , playing with yourself |
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//www.pngnrlbid.com
[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Pepe "So you're saying that Widnes' administration wasn't a major issue which could've barred them from obtaining a licence?'"
it was an issue, and it did mean the started behind the 8 ball, it was a negative for their bid,
but it didnt preclude them from either bidding or obtaining a licence, it just made it more difficult |
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| Quote: Pepe "Widnes vikings currently have no debts.'"
That's daft - paying suppliers in cash? I'd at least take advantage of the 30 day terms most suppliers offer  |
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Starbug "So any club with losses should not get a franchise by that logic
I'm sure you'll be happy , playing with yourself'"
yes, because thats exactly what i said, that and i think I insulted your dad aswell somewhere in there |
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On thread drift:
[quote="tb":24qn1m99]Tough. Conversations develop. It's their nature.[/quote:24qn1m99]
Little Pepe went to nursery school one day wearing his Widnes hat. His teacher asked him why he was a Widnes fan. He said, “Because my parents are.” His teacher said, “That’s not good. What would you do if your parents were drug dealers and hookers?” He replied, “Well then I would be a Warrington fan.”
[i:24qn1m99]There's a Wooly over there, baggy kecks and feathered hair
with a 3 star jumper half way up his back, that’s a fecking Wooly back![/i:24qn1m99]
[b:24qn1m99]Oooh-to… Oooh-to-be… Oooh-to-be-a… WOOLY![/b:24qn1m99]:24307.jpg |
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "a £500k bond shouldnt have been needed, the fact the business plan showed it was needed as well as the losses Widnes have incurred since (as a going concern) show that to be a good decision'"
Immediately after the licence announcements Lewis praised the Vikings bid, and stated that the Widnes Vikings have a bright future under the new regime. The business plan put forward was not criticized in the report. It was the administration which was put forward soley as the reason for rejection. |
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