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Quote: roamintherange "Which is exactly most peoples point, whilst New Zealand have moved forward we appear to be moving backwards or at the very least standing still, either way it's not good'"

Moving backwards or standing still since when?
Of course we moved backwards since 2007 (if 2007 ever actually happened) with a poor performance in 2008. But then again, the Aussies must have moved backwards too seeing as they failed to win.
How can we have moved backwards, forwards or anything since then?


Quote: roamintherange "Again Smith is being touted as a failure not because of a succcesful 2007 but because of failures since then. If New Zealands progression to win the world cup is classed as a success surely Englands failure to kick on from 2007 must be classed as a failure.'"


Failures?
In two major tournaments under Smith, we've been great in one and poor in one. You deem that making the coach a failure?

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I think that to develop the international game it would make sence for Tony to be able to invite all british eligible players for train-on squad, but this only affects the country they play for if they swap to play for england.

So value for players, mixing youth with the top players of the moment, but they can still go back to play for Ireland/Scotland.

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Quote: Richie "Moving backwards or standing still since when?
Of course we moved backwards since 2007 (if 2007 ever actually happened)'"


So we agree then

Quote: Richie "But then again, the Aussies must have moved backwards too seeing as they failed to win.'"


By their standards, absolutely. Do you think most Aussies view their world cup a succcess?

Quote: Richie "How can we have moved backwards, forwards or anything since then?'"


Since 2008, although we have played no tournaments and indeed beaten the French since //www.northamptonrl.co.uk:193.jpg



Quote: roamintherange "So we agree then'"

Of course.
What were you expecting? A World Cup win?

Quote: roamintherange "By their standards, absolutely. Do you think most Aussies view their world cup a succcess?'"

but yet they are not all "woe is me" "we might as well not bother"

Quote: roamintherange "Since 2008, although we have played no tournaments and indeed beaten the French since www.hullrockers.co.uk:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_25057.jpeg



Posted: October 2 2009 8:29 pm

Quote: The Goroka Gene-ius "Don't talk wet man. Kris is a decent kid but is a million miles away from being good enough to pull on an international shirt.'"


That's as maybe, but since this is the England train on squad he might consider himself unlucky not to be involved. icon_rolleyes.gif

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