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Quote: eddiewaringsflatcap "-RL fans doing what they are famous for - socialising, enjoying each others company and getting behind their team
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This is a bad thing?

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Quote: rover49 "We should keep it and move it to a new area each year, my vote for 2010 is 'Maldives Magic'
What about mexico magic they will need some tourist after this bug going round.

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winning like never before. decoys. mouse traps. chicken wings. lollie pops. shepperds. the crusher. grapples. big league. In 1935 The Dragon Slayers as they were known defeated Canterbury bulldogs 91-6, which is still the biggest win in the Club's History. In 1907, the St George district had a club in the Sydney rugby union competition. Interestingly, the team's area was referred to as the 'Illawarra suburbs'. A resolution to form a St George rugby league club was made at a local meeting held in early 1908, but the movement faltered and collapsed. St George, wearing the district colours of red and white, played in the NSWRL's Third Grade competition in 1910, and formed a President's Cup team in 1911. References were found at the time to district teams being called 'The Saints'.the perfect 11 //www.dragons.com.au/shop/index.asp //dragons.leagueunlimited.com/ //www.showroom.com.au/dragons/drag ... 1intro.htm:34439.jpg



Quote: Judder Man "Not quite the same game mate, and I,m old enough to make the comparision.

eg. Fat colliding with Fat is not the same as Muscle colliding with muscle.'"
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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: rover49 "We should keep it and move it to a new area each year, my vote for 2010 is 'Maldives Magic' roofs would avoid that one on principle too icon_cool.gif

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winning like never before. decoys. mouse traps. chicken wings. lollie pops. shepperds. the crusher. grapples. big league. In 1935 The Dragon Slayers as they were known defeated Canterbury bulldogs 91-6, which is still the biggest win in the Club's History. In 1907, the St George district had a club in the Sydney rugby union competition. Interestingly, the team's area was referred to as the 'Illawarra suburbs'. A resolution to form a St George rugby league club was made at a local meeting held in early 1908, but the movement faltered and collapsed. St George, wearing the district colours of red and white, played in the NSWRL's Third Grade competition in 1910, and formed a President's Cup team in 1911. References were found at the time to district teams being called 'The Saints'.the perfect 11 //www.dragons.com.au/shop/index.asp //dragons.leagueunlimited.com/ //www.showroom.com.au/dragons/drag ... 1intro.htm:34439.jpg



we stoped playing midweek wednesday night panasonic knock out cup . not enough recovery time

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Hmmm.

Tough one.

"[iBoss, I want to play 10 or 12 games a year less, like that Civoniceva chappie. But I want to be paid the same wage. I won't play for what he is paid.[/i."

No, I can't think of any problem with that. Can anyone help me?'"


Oh I will.

It is a question of quality over quantity. Currently a lot of games are unimportant due to the amount of games in the regular season and the ease that some can get into the playoffs. Leeds current form is a symptom of this. The NRL has a fewer number of games increasing the importance of each one.

In the USA major league baseball has the same problem. Each team has over a hundred games in a regular season making each one as an even pretty pointless. The NFL on the other hand has on 16/17 regular season games that make each game intense and very crucial.

The increase in quality is also an increase in intensity so players would still earn their money. Also I doubt they were all given pay increases when the fixture list expanded. With the introduction of the salary cap at a similar time some probably had to take cuts.

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Quote: tb "Really? The Welsh Tourist Board, Cardiff City and Millennium Stadium approached the RFL with a wad of money because they wished to attract locals to make up for the loss of cup finals (both RL and Association Football) with the reopening of Wembley? Are you sure?'"


If the locals they attracted constitue people from Rugby league areas, then yes. The point here is that the game failed to generate significant interest from people within Wales, which is true.

Quote: tb "Ah OK, sounds like "it's difficult, we shouldn't bother".'"


No it sounds like a sensible distinction between 'difficult' and 'unrealistic,' the latter of which Magic Weekends clearly are when you take into account primary objectives such as bringing the game to a new audience - i.e getting them to attend; potraying a vibrant image of the game - forgive me in thinking that the echo of 5,000 diehards watching Harelquins against whoever at Cardiff does the opposite; and generating significant financial income which the event can hardly have said to have acheived.

Don't let that get in the way of those who have convinced themselves such grandiose, sorry daft schemes are worth it, though.

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Quote: Noel Cleal "Oh I will.

It is a question of quality over quantity. Currently a lot of games are unimportant due to the amount of games in the regular season and the ease that some can get into the playoffs. Leeds current form is a symptom of this. The NRL has a fewer number of games increasing the importance of each one.

In the USA major league baseball has the same problem. Each team has over a hundred games in a regular season making each one as an even pretty pointless. The NFL on the other hand has on 16/17 regular season games that make each game intense and very crucial.

The increase in quality is also an increase in intensity so players would still earn their money. Also I doubt they were all given pay increases when the fixture list expanded. With the introduction of the salary cap at a similar time some probably had to take cuts.'"



The NFL is looking to play 17-18 games in the near future and as for Baseball.....the number of games they play has never been a problems for them. In fact the MLB is making a surprising amount of money right now and are getting good crowds despite the number of games they are playing.


The mentality of the British game means that no one really cares enough to change thee current structure. So why should anyone spend their time worrying about the number of games SL clubs play when there are a hundred other much larger problems Poms couldn't give a stuff about.

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Quote: eddiewaringsflatcap "If the locals they attracted constitue people from Rugby league areas, then yes. The point here is that the game failed to generate significant interest from people within Wales, which is true.'"


And the next point is that the weekend hasn't even happened in Edinburgh yet. How about we give it 2 years there and see what the result is before we write it off as a daft scheme?

I'm sure our group is not alone in bringing a dozen or so non-RL fans to the weekend - would be difficult getting the same people along to Knowlsey Road.

Quote: eddiewaringsflatcap "No it sounds like a sensible distinction between 'difficult' and 'unrealistic,' the latter of which Magic Weekends clearly are when you take into account primary objectives such as bringing the game to a new audience - i.e getting them to attend; potraying a vibrant image of the game - forgive me in thinking that the echo of 5,000 diehards watching Harelquins against whoever at Cardiff does the opposite; and generating significant financial income which the event can hardly have said to have acheived.'"


How much income does the weekend generate? How much are Edinburgh paying ther RFL? What profit do the RFL make?

Out of interest - did you go to either of the weekends in Cardiff?

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Quote: eddiewaringsflatcap "If the locals they attracted constitue people from Rugby league areas, then yes. The point here is that the game failed to generate significant interest from people within Wales, which is true.



No it sounds like a sensible distinction between 'difficult' and 'unrealistic,' the latter of which Magic Weekends clearly are when you take into account primary objectives such as bringing the game to a new audience - i.e getting them to attend; potraying a vibrant image of the game - forgive me in thinking that the echo of 5,000 diehards watching Harelquins against whoever at Cardiff does the opposite; a[ind generating significant financial income which the event can hardly have said to have acheived.[/i

Don't let that get in the way of those who have convinced themselves such grandiose, sorry daft schemes are worth it, though.'"


1But it's only you and him who've said that was a primary objective. Neither the RFL or those pumping money into it from Wales said it was.

It's like me saying that given that your primary objective was to win the Pulitzer Prize for this post, it's obviously a failure.

[i2[/iThey gave us half a million quid to come and play some games in their stadium. The Scots have apparently come up with an ever better offer. That's not "significant income"?

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Keiron Cunningham has joined in the nonsense now.....

www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/sai ... gic_event/

do the players not realise they are paid to entertain, not to whinge.
Keiron Cunningham has joined in the nonsense now.....

www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/sai ... gic_event/

do the players not realise they are paid to entertain, not to whinge.


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Quote: saints35 bulls0 "Keiron Cunningham has joined in the nonsense now.....


FFS icon_rolleyes.gif

Tell you what Keiron - instead of focussing on the people who can't afford to go, how about sparing a thought for those who made sacrifices and booked accomodation and tickets months ago with their hard earned and are looking forward to cheering you on at this event that you and your pals obviously don't want to play in.

Comare and contrast with the statements coming from Leuluai at Wigan and Morley at Warrington and Graham/Cunningham just sounds like whiney "I'm bigger than the sport" cry-babies.

You need to travel for a few hours before playing rather than playing in your back yard at some hick town. Get over it.

What's more, if Saints put in a CBA type of performance as a result of the negative attitude from our bigmouth stars, I'll be royally f*cked off.

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Quote: FearTheVee "FFS
Well said.

It's attitudes like this that will continue to hold our sport back. The international scene is nowhere near as strong as it needs to be so the RFL have come up with a way of spreading the game to new areas. Given how quick these guys are to bleat to journalists you'd think they'd welcome the expansion of the sport and the increased opportunities to moan to the media it would bring.
Can you imagine Premier League clubs complaining about travelling to Portsmouth or having to play away in Europe a few times a season?

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Quote: FearTheVee "What's more, if Saints put in a CBA type of performance as a result of the negative attitude from our bigmouth stars, I'll be royally f*cked off.'"


this is exactly the kind of attitude that appears to be building within the camp - and it is giving Wigan exactly the motivation they need to think they are in with a sniff.

its truly pathetic - and someone within the club should put a stop to these idiots shouting their mouths off, or leave the morons at home and give the shirt to someone who actually wants to play for the club.

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Quote: saints35 bulls0 "Keiron Cunningham has joined in the nonsense now.....

did someone forget to tell him about the deep fried mars bars? He's be up for it then... icon_lol.gif

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