Personally having an Australian coaching an English team is just so wrong, he might have a fantastic record but I find him ignorant and rude his interview with Tanya was beyond the pail, England are just as good as New Zealand and Australia, but because we haven't won for forty odd years getting over the line is just getting harder and harder, we can change the team as a Saints supporter i would love Percy to be in the team, but it's all about belief.

Thought we were good in parts, but ultimately composure ( and Johnson) was the difference.
Thought both wingers played well but our centres are shockingly bad, and were pretty much anonymous, good job both wingers like to come in to get work or they would never have touched the ball!
Forwards trying to be too clever at times, especially Burgess in the last few minutes, and Wtf was the one man hit ups about on the last few plays?

Our back rows were sub par too
Whitehead especially

Is the depth of English RL that bad that a whopper like sarginson is considered starting centre for the national team?

Regards

King James

That's no optical illusion. If you pause the slow mo at the point the ball is behind the post it's as clear as day.

It's just not though. I've seen the pictures of it and the ball passes the post on the inside (kick was successful). People are getting fooled by the white on White of the ball and post.

If you've watched the replay then you'll see several England players in shot watching it go over right in perfect position......like I said are you honestly of the opinion none of them saw it apparently go wide and not bother complaining? That's very far fetched.

Was thinking this after watching Tanya interview with the arrogant sod.very poor saying the 8 nrl based players would pull the others up to their speed/standard.if anything it was just the opposite.Percival for Sarge. Williams for Widdop .Taylor instead of any Burgess and that is our best chance.the fact the coach is bemoaning our own top league and has no passion for our national team makes me wonder how he can inspire us to beat his Australian team?saying that Aus look a class above so it may be irrelevant who is in charge but Bennett got right up my nose .Also think on this season's form Shaul should be in ahead of Lomax although neither have Hardakers natural all round attributes. I didn't have much faith in mcnamara but at least he didn't disparage his players

Bennett is here for a two year pension top up and nothing more imo. Looks like he is hating every minute of being here right now but this is the hard bit of the deal for him...next year he gets paid by the RFL and gets to remain in OZ for the WC so it was probably worth while for him. May as well have stuck with Mac.

And when did Trent Hodkinson ever unlock a defence?

He's like Widdop, but without the attacking flair.

Shaun Johnson was the difference, forgetting the DG for a mo

He yet again was the Difference between NZ and England - He seriously is a top talent pure and simple

Don't agree. We had enough chances to win comfortably same old story in that the forwards more than matched up but backs couldn't/didn't take those chances Lomax and sarge were not of an international standard in their positions Widdop was a 6 out of 10 as always. Shouldn't be anywhere near our team

Thought exactly the same after the match. They're both the same kind of Props (unsurprisingly) and we did lose a bit of something when Hill and Graham both went off. Also agree on which way to do it, starting with Graham and George and replacing them with Hill and Tom. Or it could that he might try Taylor for one of the twins.