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| Quote: MjM "But not half as many as the fans think as they simply don't understand the forward pass rules.
This decision was however as you say clearly different but you have to live with it. I thought how Hull got possession on the lead up to the penultimate try was also dubious - I think James Child intervened but there wasn't a proper replay of what happened.'"
The need for a second referee is obvious.
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| Two wrongs don't make a right, but with the individual concerned I can't help but thinking its a bit a karma for last seasons magic derby
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| Sky should follow BBC Challenge Cup games and let you listen to the video ref during his decision making. I quite like that little touch
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| Got to agree, why can we not listen to what the video ref is saying, works very well on the beeb and PS.
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| Quote: The Devil's Advocate "I think you need to take off your black & white glasses for a minute.
Ganson had all the time in the world to review the incident, to check whether he was onside at the kick & track the player involved in the try.
He’s not some sort of rookie, he’s the main man & that decision was inexcusable.
Then we get one eyed FC fans & Gentle for that matter saying “Oh well, it makes up for last year” two wrongs don’t make a right.
Anyhow it will be up there with the all time VR bloopers, but to suggest they happen every week is absurd.'"
I have seen cock-ups by VRs every bit as bad. And no - they weren't all against my team, either. It was a terrible decision but actually not the worst I've seen. Anyone who expected things to improve under Ganson really hasn't been paying attention over the last couple of decades.
Two wrongs don't make a right. But we get apologists for officials on here every time there's a poor decision claiming 'it evens out over the season' when it clearly doesn't, so you'll have to forgive Hull fans and to an extent Gentle for indulging in a little schadenfruede.
Actually I don't care whether you forgive us or not.
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| Quote: comeonuhull "Got to agree, why can we not listen to what the video ref is saying, works very well on the beeb and PS.'"
What difference would that make on this occasion? He would still have given the try.
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| Quote: Kosh "I have seen cock-ups by VRs every bit as bad. And no - they weren't all against my team, either. It was a terrible decision but actually not the worst I've seen. Anyone who expected things to improve under Ganson really hasn't been paying attention over the last couple of decades.
Two wrongs don't make a right. But we get apologists for officials on here every time there's a poor decision claiming 'it evens out over the season' when it clearly doesn't, so you'll have to forgive Hull fans and to an extent Gentle for indulging in a little schadenfruede.
Actually I don't care whether you forgive us or not.'"
So, what is the worst decision you have ever seen?
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| Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "I couldn't agree more.... in all but the last bit!
Let me also add, had Thaler just given the try & would have a massively different opinion on this whole incident &, as I did in 2007, then I would have expected the result to stand & Thaler to have been suspended until thought worthy enough to end up the middle again. However, Mr Thaler didn't make the same mistake as Ganson did in 2007 now did he!!!'"
OK...
2007 - VR makes an unasked for and illegal intervention which results in the on-field ref awarding a penalty where there was none. As a direct consequence the result of the game is affected.
2013 - VR makes a massive but perfectly legal cock-up that directly affects the result of the game.
And you think these are two 'entirely different' scenarios?
Also, if you replay the entire set of 6 leading up to that try you'll see that Thaler makes a huge mistake in KR's favour. He calls the 4th tackle [itwice[/i and do Lynch takes the ball up to run it in and set up the final play. Just before he makes contact with the defensive line Thaler suddenly starts screaming '5! It's 5!' and lynch has to unload the ball in a panic, resulting in Houghton's aimless hoof up field.
Now - who knows what would have happened had he called the tackle count correctly? Most likely we wouldn't have been in the position we were caught in as a result of his inability to count to 5.
How far back in the game do we check for cock-ups?
Do you see now why the Operational Rules specifically forbid a result to be challenged on the basis of a decision by an official?
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| Quote: roversmad "So, what is the worse decision you have ever seen?'"
Has to be yesterdays for me. Beats the Tansey one
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| Quote: Mark_W "Has to be yesterdays for me. Beats the Tansey one'"
That question was actually for Kosh. He claims it was not the worse decision he has seen. I wondered what was.
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| Quote: roversmad "So, what is the worse decision you have ever seen?'"
A few years ago I saw the VR award a try when the 'scorer' had clearly dropped it and not regathered before it hit the ground. I'd put that marginally ahead of yesterday's shocker.
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| Quote: Kosh "A few years ago I saw the VR award a try when the 'scorer' had clearly dropped it and not regathered before it hit the ground. I'd put that marginally ahead of yesterday's shocker.'"
You are clearly stupid if you think Watt's decision was worse than yesterdays.
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| Quote: roversmad "You are clearly stupid if you think Watt's decision was worse than yesterdays.'"
That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I'm sure the fact that your team benefitted from the decision has no bearing whatsoever on your assessment of the severity.
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| Quote: Kosh "That's your opinion and you're entitled to it. I'm sure the fact that your team benefitted from the decision has no bearing whatsoever on your assessment of the severity.'"
My opinion was that it looked 50/50 whether the ball was juggled and regained in the split second it hit the floor. Yesterday was as plain as day.
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| Quote: roversmad "My opinion was that it looked 50/50 whether the ball was juggled and regained in the split second it hit the floor. Yesterday was as plain as day.'"
I see no rovers fans have as yet questioned why your full back didn't make any attempt to catch the ball whilst being completely Unopposed .
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