Haha, I've just got on the train home. I wasn't remotely looking forward to anything about today, but how wrong I was, and delighted to be so. Brilliant Wires.

To an extent I think our big game experience told, as it reminded me a bit of the Grand Final a couple of years ago when Cas were easily the best team in Super League but Leeds had the nous when it mattered. Obviously that Leeds team contained serial winners rather than the perennial losers that we have been recently, but nevertheless that experience of playing in finals tells you they aren't like normal weekly round games. Saints have had it easy - and are undeniably a level above, as were Cas 2017 - but today the intensity stepped up and they weren't ready to step up with it.

Robert Hick's call of the no try by Knowles after a magnificent kick by Theodore Fages, was a disgrace. Hicks should have gone to the video referee. That wrong call effectively stole the game from St Helens.

As opposed to the numerous handling errors from Saints and some stern Wire defence.

This is just simply fantastic news to get rid of the stench of the usual Stains trolls on here. At least JEAN has tried in vain to mitigate the heartache for the Stains fans, but he has just simply embarrassed himself.

Perhaps he lost the toss and had to represent themselves.

Thought you'd be watching the Ashes.

Anyone else think Tanya Arnold looked rather nice today?

I thought we were the big game bottlers.

Would you ?

Great day and great game today.

It's said above but I think the experience of being at Wembley before gave Warrington a lift but only a little bit.
Ultimately some never say die defence won that game for Warrington. Very well deserved.

Well done Warrington, superb performance, first final I've truly enjoyed in a while. Daryl Clarke on his day is a machine.

Also shows once again why:
A - if the technology is there, use it (although I thought Hicks was correct on first viewing - and he had a good game overall).

B - the ridiculous "I have a try/no-try" call should be abolished in favour of simply "is it a try or not". We've seen far too many instances where the most probable outcome is clear to anyone with a modicum of common sense and reasonably clear vision, however as the on-field ref has gone the other way and as there is no 'clear evidence to overrule', the video ref is bound by the rules to reaffirm the on-field ref's call.

Well you are really as you’ve been in 2 finals in the SL era and lost them both. But then it’s not quite the same as 5 in a row for Saints.

Having said that Leeds went 6 Challenge Cup Finals without a win, they were just a bit more spread out.

SL era Prem/Grand Final & Challenge Cup win loss ratios
Leeds - 58% (11W - 8L)
St Helens - 57% (12W - 9L)
Wigan - 56% (10W - 8L)
Warrington - 40% (4W - 6L)

Last 15 years
Leeds - 64% (9W - 5L)
St Helens - 45% (5W - 6L)
Wigan - 67% (6W - 3L)
Warrington - 40% (4W - 6L)

Last 5 years
Leeds - 100% (3W - 0L)
St Helens - 0% (0W - 1L)
Wigan - 50% (2W - 2L)
Warrington - 25% (1W - 3L)

Not long back. Good day and fair play Wire. Saints bottled it big time, but Warrington really managed the game well.

Few thoughts, whilst the attendance remains an issue, there did seem a lot more neutral shirts around than I’ve seen in a few years, don’t know if anyone else thought that?

Also, I just wonder if the whole structure of the occasion needs a refresh. It struck me whilst listening to abide with me and to a certain extent the national anthem as well, they both seemed really outdated in this day and age. Abide with me especially used to be a real highlight in years gone by, but didn’t do it at all for me today, no one paying attention in a half empty ground, so don’t know what it does for kids or younger fans.

For the first time as well, I also felt I wouldn’t be entirely opposed to a move away from Wembley. It’s such a lifeless place, even when full, let alone with 30,000 empty seats. Maybe limiting the crowd to 60,000 at Arsenal/Spurs would bring back a bit of prestige with a full house and tickets a bit more scarce.

That's how it use to be, but there's now the necessary recognition that the video ref isnt infallible (due to camera angles, bodies in the way, inability to actually see the ball etc) hence why the onfield call is made first, and is the deciding factor unless the technology can clearly prove otherwise.