That's right. Not a court of law. I'm trying to figure out whether anyone caught the game.

Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"Are there even any highlights yet? It's like the game happened in another dimension or something.'" Found them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgxxCtQXrB8

Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"Are there even any highlights yet? It's like the game happened in another dimension or something.'" Found them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgxxCtQXrB8

Ah ok, so that makes it right then.

One of the reasons this planet is so messed up is because of 'tit for tat' revenge behaviour.

If someone is racist, stereotypical or rude to you it does not mean you need to reply with an equally insulting remark.

As I said, the fact that you and another person have tried to justify calling French people 'Frogs' goes to show just how far back in the past some RL fans are living.

And you wonder why RL cannot get sponsorship or TV coverage like Rugby Union?

its funny to see the arrogant hypocrisy of some fans. We have fans of teams who dont even have an academy criticising Les Catalans for not supporting an entire national side.

Fans who argue vociferously that Les Catalans (and toulouse) must operate in a promotion and relegation environment despite the additional problems that would cause those sides, but those teams are still expected to do something most english clubs fail to do and prioritise youth development.

We have fans of a country who decided to put on an untelevised, barely attended, low profile warm up game held in a small stadium in a small town in the north of England that couldnt sell out despite charging a piece of gum and a button for entry, wondering why the french arent bending over backwards to beat us.

Anyway. some very slick handling there which was good to see. Bateman, Williams and Widdop all looked great.

So was it the chicken or the egg? , did France not bother because of the lack of respect with regards the venue and marketing, or a lack of respect shown by France to International RL ?

Got in after 10 minutes, game already over, left after an hour, wont be going again, if they do it again I'd suggest Whitebank stadium Oldham

we have a clear answer to that.

England v France in small stadiums

England 84-4 France at Leigh, attendance 8k
England 48-4 france at Salford, attendance 8k
England 44-6 france at Craven Park, attendance 7k
England 60-6 France at Leigh, attendance 8k

In a game treated like a proper international

England 34-6 france at Wigan, 22k
France 18-32 England Avignon 17k
England 34-12 France Keepmoat, 11k

Not conclusive, if the French want a game in France, then organise it, , a couple of 1,000 more in Doncaster, when was that Wigan game played?

French RL looks in a bigger mess than over here, they look more divided and parocial than us, but to proioritise matches against Scotland,Wales, Ireland than England ( if thats what they did? ) is poor

I doubt we can solve their issues any more than the Aussies could do ours, but if you want to blame the RFL for taking a game to a top quality RL stadium for both fans not turning up and a pathetic French performance , fine your perogative

what use is this game to them? its a warm up game. We arent treating it like its important, why would they? Its a mindset that thinks they should be grateful we have deigned to allow them on the same turf as us.

The french can't organise a game on their own. But if you want to absolve the RFL from the mess THEY organised yesterday because it was held at Leigh go ahead, the results are there for everyone to see.

Can the RFL organise a game on their own? , pointless point, the French can invite/request we play over there

They selected a top qualty stadium in the heartlands, a cheap cost given we have 3 games against a better ranked opponent in the next few weeks, so what do they want, us to use the Kiwis as warm up for them?

Better order Wembly for next year

The Wigan one was the World Cup QF 2013 and the Doncaster one a 4 Nations game of 2009.

Hardly properly comparable to a friendly on the eve of a 3 test series vs the Kiwis (including a trip down to London for game 2)

All Smokey has shown is that a WC QF will sell better than a friendly......shock horror.