If we were at a point where really truly 'nobody cares' whether league players or anyone else is gay then this thread wouldn't even exist. As it is we're a long way from there, and it will - rather sadly - continue to help if high profile sportspeople (or other celebrities) come out in a public way.

All the gay people I've known have had huge problems at various times from straight people - including their own families. One guy I know has not even spoken to his father for over 20 years as his dad simply refuses to acknowledge him. Whilst this sort of rubbish continues - let alone violence and the rest targeting people for simply being gay - we should all applaud the Gareth Thomas' of the world.

There is usually an area in a City that is a Gay spot, in Sydney its Oxford street there where plenty of signs that straights were discouraged to the point where staff were commenting on "breeders" in a derogatory way.
Search for it it was in mainstream papers.
I used to work in many gay nightclubs and even the Gay Mardi Gras in Sydney.
It was not normal sexual behavior at all, Drums of Condoms and lube........
It was Dantes inferno.
The Plummer was on $200 an hour and at first I thought he was creaming it, afterwards I realized $400 an hour was not enough.

Quote: Jonesy "There is usually an area in a City that is a Gay spot, in Sydney its Oxford street. It was not normal sexual behavior at all, Drums of Condoms and lube........ '" Oxford Street is very nice, I had a couple of good nights there! and as for the Condoms and Lube, I see nothing wrong with it if charity's wish to offer free protection to people. www.bumboy.org.uk/ a site run by the Terrence Higgins Trust. tells people the facts, using explicit words.

Quote: Jonesy "There is usually an area in a City that is a Gay spot, in Sydney its Oxford street. It was not normal sexual behavior at all, Drums of Condoms and lube........ '" Oxford Street is very nice, I had a couple of good nights there! and as for the Condoms and Lube, I see nothing wrong with it if charity's wish to offer free protection to people. www.bumboy.org.uk/ a site run by the Terrence Higgins Trust. tells people the facts, using explicit words.

Shame the average Chav doesn't attend place where there are free jonnys. Might a few less teen pregnancies and ex servicemen might be able to get council housing!

Interstingly, Steve Price (Oz & Queensland forward) had for years to counter allegations that he was gay and often suffered provocation/sledging from opponents during games.
Steve is categorically not gay but it does show how people can behave towards gay people.

It also said that for years he was regarded a 'soft' by other NRL forwards and some coaches and that his toughness was doubted. How anybody who plays front row in the NRL and for Queensland and OZ can be regarded as soft is beyond me .

My daughter brought me the book back from her holiday in OZ. It's a decent read and he comes across as a really decent bloke.

For those blokey-types on here who may still be concerned, yet undecided, about another bloke being gay, just try uncle cod'ead's simple gayness test.

Go over to him and kiss him, full on the lips, tongues & all.

If he closes his eyes, he's probably gay

If he closes your eyes, he probably isn't

why? one of my relations said he knew when he was 8/9 years old

I knew about that age too.

Really? When I was 8 or 9 I was still convinced that girls had the dreaded 'lurgy' and that if you kissed one you would catch it.

At that age girls also smelt too. FACT.

LOL.

Does that mean you could simply 'cure gayness' by injecting testosterone (hormone replacement therapy)?

By the age of 8 or 9 a child knows a lot of things. That it prefers jelly and ice cream to Christmas pudding, that it prefers Raleigh Choppers to racing bikes or Mousetrap to Ludo. One thing it does not know is that it is gay. If it does, it has been introduced to things a child of that age (and younger presumably, since an informed lifestyle choice of that nature would take some thinking about, I would imagine) should never have been introduced to.

and you know this as fact how?

You need to ask that question because?

I am with you BB.
8 year olds should not have much sexuality.