So what you've heard is effectively their version of events, slanted towards their own particular viewpoint and tainted by time since the event.

Given it was caught on CCTV, it's pretty difficult to argue that the evidence presented in court was somehow a pack of lies.

I notice you fail to mention Bailey's actions that led to O'Donnell running in? No? A cheap shot and kicking off with someone half his size? The act of a true hard man. And I hardly think he hurt O'Donnell, who didn't even lift his hands. As you allude to, in a mass brawl anything happens and while Bailey threw a glancing blow, it was more of a mass wrestle.

As for Radford (not that I brought it up), as it happens I agree. Bailey couldn't really defend himself and Radford let loose on a prone man. A pretty unsavoury incident all round.

But in other incidents, Bailey really needs to stop kicking off with kids.

Did you see the entire incident with Brown?
Bailey accidently caught Brown in the tackle, Bailey gave him a hand up but did it in a rough manner, Brown didn't like it and wouldn't let Bailey walk off to carry on with his game, so Bailey did what any prop would do and slapped him. But because this is Ryan Bailey, he was the one picking on the half back.

I think we need to challenge Bailey, is he really a Rugby League Player and has he got all these medals under false pretences:

If you look at what he has achieved effort wise on the field over the past 5 seasons against probably the top prop over the same period, he really shows up as a waster and dosn't earn his corn.

Tries: Bailey 4 Top Prop 32

Metres: Bailey 6693 Top Prop 19143

Tackles: Bailey 2118 Top Prop 3056

Tackle Busts: Bailey 114 Top Prop 198

Off Loads: Bailey 44 Top Prop 149

He only comes remotely close on the tackle count, but we all know most of these tackles will be 2nd or 3rd man in. The only stat he reigns supreme on, is his "excellent disciplinary record with the RFL"

Zak Hardaker wouldn't be playing rugby at all if he was trying to get in the same team as Greg Inglis.

Back on the Bailey stats, just compared his carries 1027 against the same top prop of 2711, there are indications here that Bailey dosn,t like to mix it with the big boys one on one, has one of the worst off loads in the game which suggest its head down and not making many metres. Managed to score a try once in the last 4 years, is he really an international prop with these stats, will he go it one and one with the Aussie/NZ front rows. Or will Billy Slater be more his size. Top prop is real player by the way and not a composite.

You can't really be that stupid can you you disgrace the name of Omar with you one eyed assessment of baileys credibility.

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Actually there is no need to compare Bailey to a composite top prop, real life examples indicate how far down the rankings he is. Its not just that his stats are markedly inferior to those who haven't been selected like Lynch, Mossop, Griffin and Coley amongst others but they are very comparable with Ewan Dowes who has just been released by Hull and is nobody's idea of current England player. Of course it is to Dowes discredit that he isn't a windy cheap shot merchant so he remains the largely anonymous player that he is.

Bailey shouldn't be anywhere near the England side on playing talent considerations, that is without taking into account that he is a low down grub of a person. Yes he has some value to Leeds, mainly because they have to operate under a salary cap and he'll come cheap. Plus they have Peacock and Leuleuai to do the hard yards and take the ball in first up - not something you see Bailey do very often at all. England have no salary cap restrictions and absolutely no need for this very average thug.

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