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Quote: Psychedelic Casual "First and foremost, the referee was a loving disgrace. The amount of lying on and messing about at the PTB by NZ that he continually allowed, slowing us down all the time, was scandalous.

He ruined the game as a spectacle and could have caused some more serious fights than the scuffles that did ensue because he just allowed NZ to basically cheat all game that frustrated our lads.

He poop himself when the big decisions came round - Marshall high tackled Hall to stop a try, which is at least a Sin Bin, and the ref just brushed over it and gave just a penalty.

And when Hastings made that great break, Philbin was pulled back and he was going to be the support runner. The ref did NOTHING!

Onto the game

Agreed, great post. Re - ref, I've never enjoyed watching a game when he's been in charge.

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Shaun Wane for GB+England coach please!

Everything is there for him. We have the players to choose from, we have the depth, we have the quality, he has what it takes. It’s crying out for it!

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Quote: Psychedelic Casual "Shaun Wane for GB+England coach please!

Everything is there for him. We have the players to choose from, we have the depth, we have the quality, he has what it takes. It’s crying out for it!'"


I’d like someone to implement some attacking flair - I’ve had enough of the “grind out a win” rugby we’ve seen from Bennet and McNamara before him.

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Quote: Psychedelic Casual "Shaun Wane for GB+England coach please!

Everything is there for him. We have the players to choose from, we have the depth, we have the quality, he has what it takes. It’s crying out for it!'"


I agree with this

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Quote: Psychedelic Casual "Shaun Wane for GB+England coach please!

Everything is there for him. We have the players to choose from, we have the depth, we have the quality, he has what it takes. It’s crying out for it!'"

^^^ Absolutely this, whilst I'm sure there would be some be some opposition to this from various quarters due to his past Wigan connections, Shaun is currently the best fit for the job. Let's be fair, it's only a part time role really, and could fit in with his part time Scottish RU job. He has the pride and passion you will never get from an Antipodean, good man management skills and has meticulous preparation skills. We have a World Cup coming soon, let's have a great briton coaching Great Britain!

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Quote: Willzay "I’d like someone to implement some attacking flair - I’ve had enough of the “grind out a win” rugby we’ve seen from Bennet and McNamara before him.'"


Of the English coaches, that probably just leaves you with Powell and Watson (who is involved already) and would they actually want the top job, when there are so few international fixtures.

I do think that under Bennet, we play an extremely caution "rugby by numbers" type of game.
Having said that, generally, defences are that much better and the opportunities for some "off the cuff" open rugby are extremely limited.

Also, as far as results go, it seems that McNamara was doing a decent job

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Mcnamara had England actually playing a more expansive game than Bennett.

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Tonga certainly dont play boring rugby and that's clearly getting results.

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Quote: Willzay "I’d like someone to implement some attacking flair - I’ve had enough of the “grind out a win” rugby we’ve seen from Bennet and McNamara before him.'"


How can anyone accuse Bennett of "grind out a win" rugby?
Grind out a defeat, more like.

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Shaun Wane will get the intensity back that’s for sure, and the passion. He may even get that elusive win over the Australians, but I don’t think we’d be playing good rugby though it would certainly be an improvement on what we have now.

I was brought up on international games bringing out the best in players and the intensity stepping up a notch and the GB are just sauntering through these games. Wane would bring that intensity back but I was glad to see him go at Wigan, to play crap boring dull rugby all year and turn it on the for the last 3 games and win the title papered over the cracks IMO. We hardly offloaded and I’m a massive fan of the offload.

Powell would get us playing good rugby, as would Watson but id be keen on a coach who allows the players to play their own game, to play what’s in front of them and throw the ball around.

We have played Tonga and NZ in the last week and to beat either team you need to take the wind out of their sails and tire the big lads out, you do that by making them work twice as hard by having a second phase and Bennett wouldn’t allow his players to do that, we need a coach who plays expansive rugby, can motivate a team and is a good man manager.

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Wayne Bennett still has the skills necessary to enable Great Britain and England to win. However he needs Thomas Makinson and Mark Percival to be available, and he also must select Samuel Tomkins in the starting 13.

I would select Widdop at full back, Tomkins and Hastings in the halves, and John Lomax in the centres, in place of the mediocre Zachary Hardaker, to partner Mark Percival. That team would have the attacking talent necessary to win.

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Did I read that right? Lomax at centre ?

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I am far from convinced that Lomax is international standard. Has he ever done anything of note for England / GB?

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Quote: Dally "I am far from convinced that Lomax is international standard. Has he ever done anything of note for England / GB?'"


Well he can't exactly have done much for GB considering the side has been dormant for the last 12 years.

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Quote: JonnoTheGreat "Well he can't exactly have done much for GB considering the side has been dormant for the last 12 years.'"


Used to love the old GB v Aus Ashes 3 test series. Last played in England in 2003 and here in Aus in 1992. Was at all games played here since 1970(our last series win). Great memories of some truly great players.

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