Pathetic isn't it.

isnt this thread about expansion? Where's the mods when you need them?????

There is no thread in here without some ruining it.

Even game day threads for gods sake.

There has been plenty to talk about in regards to expansion and yet you wouldn't know it.

Just this year we've had 5 figure crowds in WA, SA and NZ, but no one wants to talk about it except a few and their posts get over run by trolls.

make a thread about TV rating, crowds, expansion and the trolls all come out and start talking about their fav sports all the while kicking RL and telling everyone more or less that love the game to get back in their box.

Well stuff that.

If you want to make a new thread about expansion, go for it, we'll see how far it gets and if it does get derailed by the same fools, something might get done.

Still waiting for a reasoned debate?
Expansion is all well and good, but before you embark on it, you must look into the pro's and con's (no pun intended) of each area you you are going into.
For example, when SL started in the UK some 15 years ago, it was considered safe to assume that a london based SL outfit would pull in 10k minimum every home game........the amount of ex-pat Anzacs (750k) in the city at any one time would surely flock to see some League. What the organisers of Super League failed to consider was the general apathy that sports fans have in Australia unless they are talking about their favourite club side or the international team. Therefore, what should have been a roaring success, has in fact turned out to be an abject failure from a business point of view.
What Superleague failed to consider was the existing sporting landscape in London....the predominance of soccer at every point and the recent alarming decline of the London Monarch American Football team......
...what also didn't help was the perception that League was a northern game, played by miners with flat caps and pigeons in their lofts....the supposed north/south divide of wealth and all of the other things available outside of sport that was trying to attract the same disposable income.
So, Expansion for Expansions sake, doesn't work......what you need is a demographic breakdown of what you are up against, how well other sports (including Union and AFL) are doing and what REAL response you can expect from the local public. Christchurch recently had 20k for a warriors/Roosters game...that points to an audience being there.....but the same audience rolled up for the soccer team last year, so is that crowd just a one-off from an local population starved of decent first grade sport outside of Union, or indicative of what would happen every second week if a team were established there? Is there the financialbacking in place to support a full time pro team, or will Murdoch need to prop the fledgling franchise up (a la Storm)?
I don't know much about perth, but I would say that any 2nd NZ franchise would get gates of between 15 and 20k in its first year and dependant on performance, would settle at around 13k....is that enough to warrant a second NZ franchise? Is it enough to be self suficient? Would perth or Adelaide fair any better?

You have nothing to say to Gutterfax because he has backed you into a corner and you have nowhere to go - slam dunked - far too easily.

I don't post on any other RL site, I have other interests outside of RL - which along with golf is the only sport I watch live.

Both my sons play at elite amateur level and have done so since being eleven years. My support for grass roots rugby league is like that of hundreds of parents who encourage their kids to play RL i.e. transport too and from training/matches, financial support with kit, subs, raffles etc standing outside in northern England in November-February on pitches exposed to the elements like Elland is no fun.

This is why I don't take you seriously because you talk about supporting the game, paying your subscription to Channel Nine doesn't count as support IMO. When you get out and get involved in an amateur club, get off your backside and attend a few games I will start taking you views seriously. You and Dally are clones and typical of Sydney sports fan - and we know that will not happen - as the saying goes actions speak louder than words. You are the worst type of hypocrite.

On expansion, when the clubs can generate sufficient revenue streams that they don't have to rely on non-RL related punters stuffing coins into slot machines then I would consider expansion.

When the clubs have reached saturation point in terms of attendances then I would also consider expanding, how often do any of the clubs in the NRL fill their grounds to capacity?

When all the current clubs have facilities that would be considered world class then I would also consider expansion - how many clubs in the NRL can claim to have world class stadiums?

The reliance on SSI youngsters would also be an issue for me. If you see what has happened in the West Indies to cricket the same will happen to RL in Australia.

Expansion is great if you have reached saturation point - RL in Australia is far from that.

No troll, I'll say it else where, I like posting here.

Upyours.

Beat up again - it is just so easy - you are so lame

You want debate yet you are incapable of engaging in a debate unless it with the likes of Dally - you are joke now run along to your mummy

I want to debate footy here, isn't that what this forum's for after all?

mate, other than calling them scum just dont bother

its probably just the same guy on different ip addresses,

No you don't want you want is everyone to agree with your views. If those views are challenged you simply throw your rattle out of your cot and revert to name calling - very grown up.

If you don't want your points being debated don't raise them. Don't post them and expect them not to be challenged.

I have given you four reason why expansion should not be considered at this point - those points - the SSI youngsters aside - are equally valid with regards to SL.

All you have done is what Dally does when he doesn't get his own way - behave like a child, you need to grow up and accept yours is not the only view point or do what Dally does - post articles from other people and agree with them.

Dead set spot on

still waiting for a reasoned debate

Well start a thread on RL then, shesh