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Brian Smith's brother is nothing but a mumbling, whinging, loser clown.
What the hell he was doing in England winning a SL title is beyond me.
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Daniel Anderson named new Parramatta Eels coach. that leaves smith where he is . Anderson was an assistant to coach Brian Smith at Parramatta in 2000 after leading the reserve grade team to the 1999 premiership.
"I have a long history with the Parramatta club and I consider it a real privilege to be given the opportunity to coach the team over the next three years,'' Anderson said.
"I started my coaching career here back in 1991 and it's long been a goal of mine to return. I'm a Parramatta boy, I grew up here and, apart from the last eight years, I've spent my life here.
"Needless to day I'm incredibly enthusiastic about the opportunity that I have been given and I look forward to helping the team and the club rise up the ladder.''
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Daniel Anderson named new Parramatta Eels coach. that leaves smith where he is . Anderson was an assistant to coach Brian Smith at Parramatta in 2000 after leading the reserve grade team to the 1999 premiership.
"I have a long history with the Parramatta club and I consider it a real privilege to be given the opportunity to coach the team over the next three years,'' Anderson said.
"I started my coaching career here back in 1991 and it's long been a goal of mine to return. I'm a Parramatta boy, I grew up here and, apart from the last eight years, I've spent my life here.
"Needless to day I'm incredibly enthusiastic about the opportunity that I have been given and I look forward to helping the team and the club rise up the ladder.''
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Not aggresive enough
no attacking game plan
defense patterns were schoolboy level
Not sure if it is Smith, the players or the dire coaching of juniors in England but somebody needs to shoulder some blame. By far and away the worse tournament display by any Eng/GB team in living memory.
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| Quote: JB Down Under "defense patterns were schoolboy level'" That was the most depressing bit, for me.
Forget Australia, they're better than everyone by a mile for a number of reasons, but the NZ team that beat us was crap. When we lost, it just as much of case of how we were worse than them rather then them being better than us.
The majority of the NZ team would turn out to be the sort of very average SL signings they people decry for needlesly blocking young british talent.
Either Leeds or Saints would have trashed that Kiwi side. They're teams based around English players (who made up the majority of the Englnd team), so we've got some serious issues, especially when the line of defense is so woeful. |
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "That was the most depressing bit, for me.
Either Leeds or Saints would have trashed that Kiwi side. They're teams based around English players (who made up the majority of the Englnd team), so we've got some serious issues, especially when the line of defense is so woeful.'"
This is what we all are thinking, Leeds and Saints would have had in attack decoy runners, switch of play, 2nd attack phase, chip kicks over the defensive line. In defense Leeds and Saints would be more aggressive, quicker onto the offensive line, covering out wide.
We didn,t see any of this in the England side, in most instances the players didn,t know what to do next in both offence and defence. There was also no one in authority on the field to organise any plays thats if they had any. |
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| Quote: Judder Man "This is what we all are thinking, Leeds and Saints would have had in attack decoy runners, switch of play, 2nd attack phase, chip kicks over the defensive line. In defense Leeds and Saints would be more aggressive, quicker onto the offensive line, covering out wide.
We didn,t see any of this in the England side, in most instances the players didn,t know what to do next in both offence and defence. There was also no one in authority on the field to organise any plays thats if they had any.'"
It would have helped if the likely starting 17 had a pre WC game to do some work on this.
But no. The moronic Smith had a meaningless game versus Wales with many of the England players that night not even going out to Oz!!
Why not fly there earlier, aclimatise more and play a game out there with our start 17. Nz managed it versus Tonga....we couldn't.
Just how many play maker combinations were we runnin through in actual cup games? How many permutations of second row/centre/wing.
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Just to put things a little bit in perspective, all the faults that have been evident at the WC were there in the last tri Nations here. We had one good performance when Sean Long looked like a halfback for a minute, but were dire in the other games. Meanwhile Australia have a more dynamic backline than they did then.
Under Noble GB's backline was just as bad as now. The forwards may have played better, but to be honest the gap wasn't much bigger.
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| Quote: Marsdengiant "
A complete organisational farce and Smith was responsible.'"
Still bitter?  |
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| Quote: TARANIS "Still bitter? ![]()
Enjoying myself. Thanks. 
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Where is he going to go?
I can not imagine any NRL Clubs being interested, The Parra connection was a Red Herring.
Salford, Celtic?
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| Quote: Eurob0y "To be GB/England manager, you need the following.
1. To have been an average rugby player in your time and
2. To have achieved success on the back of inheriting someone elses club team.'"
Does anyone esle remember Tony Smith playing for Workington?
Quote: Eurob0y "We should be pulling out all the stops to get someone in, who is a winner. A proper winner.
Who? Is anyone idea. Who would want the job?'" Paul Sculthorpe, Andy Farrell, Tommy Martyn, Kris Radlinski? All lacking coaching experience, but top players in their day, perhaps able, with a decent coaching team to rally a squad for the short periods they get together. All decorated players who know what it takes to win. All recent enough players to not be out of touch with the modern styles.
Andrew Johns? Alfie Langer? Freddie Fittler? What are these guys doing?
Even if not head coach, it could be worth looking at them for "advisory" or "mentor" roles for our current international players.
What exactly is Ellery Hanley doing these days?? |
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| Quote: Offside Monkey "Does anyone esle remember Tony Smith playing for Workington?
Paul Sculthorpe, Andy Farrell, Tommy Martyn, Kris Radlinski? All lacking coaching experience, but top players in their day, perhaps able, with a decent coaching team to rally a squad for the short periods they get together. All decorated players who know what it takes to win. All recent enough players to not be out of touch with the modern styles.
Andrew Johns? Alfie Langer? Freddie Fittler? What are these guys doing?
Even if not head coach, it could be worth looking at them for "advisory" or "mentor" roles for our current international players.
What exactly is Ellery Hanley doing these days??'"
I believe after leaving Donny Ellery is signed upto one of those tv Dancing shows but to be fair he will get known from that then get head coach role for England people will have a browse about what he does. |
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Mick Gledhill would win the World Cup as coach of Australia.
Tony Smith isnt the problem the players are.
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| Quote: Roy Haggerty "The situation in our backline from 1-7 is atrocious. I hate how old this makes me sound, but I've been watching rugby for 25 years now, and I have never seen a set of backs so utterly devoid of world class talent. Compared to Newlove, Davies, Offiah, Gibbs, Connolly, Radlinski in his pomp, Edwards, Goulding etc this lot are woeful. Everyone over 30 will recognise how dire it is that I can say this confidently, but if Alan Hunte was playing now, he'd be the best winger in this country by such a distance that Stevo would be tossing off over him. Sculthorpe and Farrell had their detractors (usually wearing either Wigan or Saints shirts), but they were beter backs than any of our lads on this tour, and they were actually both forwards.'"
You're absolutely right and you aren't the only one to hate how old it makes you sound either! |
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| No showing from Smith at Stan's final testimonial dinner last night, wonder why   |
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