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| I dont see the fasination with picking forwards for commentry. Do we not have some half backs that could do the job?
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| Quote: Nat (Rugby_Aholic) "I dont see the fasination with picking forwards for commentry. Do we not have some half backs that could do the job?'"
Jiffy not good enough for you?
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| Why does their position make a difference to how they sound on tv?
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| he does come across as a bit manufactured, he sounds nothing like that when you talk to him in his everyday routine!
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| Simms seems like a natural on TV, a shave, and a haircut is all that's needed. He pishes over 'one tone' Shirley as a pundit.
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| I don’t like this interviewing the players as they warm up malarkey.
After the game, fair enough, but as a player trying to get in “The Zone” only to be confronted by Big Eorl, that must be highly irritating.
Then, when he finally gets to speak to some poor sap, well on the whole, their hardly the greatest of orator’s are they?
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| Quote: Charlie Sheen "Simms seems like a natural on TV, a shave, and a haircut is all that's needed. He pishes over 'one tone' Shirley as a pundit.'"
The hair and stubble is probably why they got him on in the first place for the female viewers. Much like Jamie Redknapp on Sky, it can't be because of his punditry that they have him on so often.
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| Sims comes across surprisingly well - perhaps because he doesn't try to be anything other than who he is; seems to be a decent, humble bloke with a genuine passion for the game.
They just need to get him some new clobber - don't know what it is with the Antipods, but much like Nathan Brown, he seems to be wearing a suit and shirt that he bought in the 1980's.
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| Quote: bren2k "Sims comes across surprisingly well - perhaps because he doesn't try to be anything other than who he is; seems to be a decent, humble bloke with a genuine passion for the game.'"
He probably hasn't been on a bunch of media training days and so just sat there and was himself and it worked fine.
Eorl - trying to be a pundit, rubbish
Sims - just being himself, good
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| Quote: PopTart "Why does their position make a difference to how they sound on tv?'"
Because halves are the ones who make decisions the most, direct the teams, follow the coaches gameplan and so on, more than other positions. As a result, they can often give better insight into what's happening tactically on the pitch. Off the top of my head, these are the halves commentating in Aus: Johns, Fittler, Lockyer, Wally Lewis, Peter Sterling, Brett Finch. This is generally because they can provide better analysis than the likes of a prop who has a role of just carrying the ball forward and tackling for 80 minutes.
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| Quote: Saint #1 "Because halves are the ones who make decisions the most, direct the teams, follow the coaches gameplan and so on, more than other positions. As a result, they can often give better insight into what's happening tactically on the pitch. Off the top of my head, these are the halves commentating in Aus
I see the merits of having one prop pundit and one HB/back pundit but suppose it a question of who to do it and will they come across well.
One thing they get right is having current players/coaches involved with Peacock, Wilkin, Crabtree, Sims, Noble and Kear. They do let it down with having Jonathan Davies though. I wonder how much he actually closely follows the RL until he arrives for CC weekends or spends most his time following the RU. I think their should be a lifespan for a pundit that he shouldn't have gone for so long since he last played/coached the game as they end up often talking like the game is still played the same way as when they were last involved.
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| Quote: moto748 "Yes, I thought Sims came across well as likeable, good-humoured and knowledgeable.'"
Sims was excellent but, did he borrow that suit from one of the cast members in Pulp Fiction
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| Can't abide Crabtree as a pundit, especially annoying yesterday was him continually bringing up his own views made before the game throughtout the match with 'i believe somebody said..' yeah we heard you the first time mate. loves the sound of his own voice. Wilkin is equally annoying but at least he has the knowledge behind it and talks a bit of sense.
Simms was brilliant, complementary and respectful to both teams on show, and came across as a likeable but knowledgeable bloke who loves his rugby. love to see him on the beeb again.
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| Once you start Eorl its difficult to stop him. He went on far too long but I didn't have a problem with him generally.
Must admit I wasn't a fan of Sims until yesterday. Came across very well, despite the Harry Hill shirt, and the miked up bit from Saturday's game showed him in a great light. More of him on the beeb coverage please.
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| Quote: Chris28 "and the miked up bit from Saturday's game showed him in a great light. More of him on the beeb coverage please.'"
I thought so too - the way he spoke to the Leigh players after the game was particularly impressive; whether that was for the benefit of the mic I don't know, but he certainly came across as a thoroughly decent chap.
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