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| The council have no money!
Blame this current spiv government for the situation
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| Quote: bigalf "Whatever the legalities of the Current development being outside the 106 it would still not have triggered the stadium build.'"
Nope, but it would have been a start & now a precedent has been set, who knows what future proposals could be circumvented.
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| Quote: Leaguefan "Blame this current spiv government for the situation
Have you read Animal Farm lately?
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| Quote: The Devil's Advocate "Nope, but it would have been a start & now a precedent has been set, who knows what future proposals could be circumvented.'"
Absolutely! If the developer does try it again I have no doubt the response from WMDC and the Club/Trust would be a little more robust!
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| Quote: bigalf "Absolutely! If the developer does try it again I have no doubt the response from WMDC and the Club/Trust would be a little more robust!'"
I’m afraid I do!
If a Tin Pot organisation has run rings round a M.D.C, they could probably do it again, we’re hardly talking about the Brain Trust here – it’s Wakefield Met .
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| Quote: The Devil's Advocate "I’m afraid I do!
If a Tin Pot organisation has run rings round a M.D.C, they could probably do it again, we’re hardly talking about the Brain Trust here – it’s Wakefield Met
Someone took there eyes off the ball when the plans were submitted ! WMDC /club/ glover/ sir Rod/ stadium trust ! - Take your pick ! The clue was in this - "the application is a stand alone and is in no way legally tied to the extant outline consent for the site" No one from the clubs side picked up on that, or questioned its meaning in relation to the s106 agreement (afaik). If they had, then things may have panned out differently !
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| Quote: bigalf "Someone took there eyes off the ball when the plans were submitted ! WMDC /club/ glover/ sir Rod/ stadium trust ! - Take your pick ! The clue was in this - "the application is a stand alone and is in no way legally tied to the extant outline consent for the site" No one from the clubs side picked up on that, or questioned its meaning in relation to the s106 agreement (afaik). If they had, then things may have panned out differently !'"
It may have not got built, but I doubt it would've made a jot of difference when it comes to the building of a stadium. If Yorkcourt hadn't managed to pull this fast one I imagine they would've looked to sell on the land with PP and pass on the obligation to another developer.
They never had any intention of building a stadium in my view, I would be intrigued to know how much WMDC knew of this apparent intention. Their threat of legal action against volunteers who are trying to work out what has happened and their refusal to providing information requested via FOI smells rotten to me. Either way there will still be no stadium at the end of it as no one has the money to pay for one.
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| Quote: Khlav Kalash "It may have not got built, but I doubt it would've made a jot of difference when it comes to the building of a stadium. If Yorkcourt hadn't managed to pull this fast one I imagine they would've looked to sell on the land with PP and pass on the obligation to another developer.
They never had any intention of building a stadium in my view, I would be intrigued to know how much WMDC knew of this apparent intention. Their threat of legal action against volunteers who are trying to work out what has happened and their refusal to providing information requested via FOI smells rotten to me. Either way there will still be no stadium at the end of it as no one has the money to pay for one.'"
The S106 obligation is still valid for the rest of the site which has plenty of plots to trigger it. The test will be how the developer submits future applications in relation to that.
Whether the developer ever intended to build a stadium is a good point, something which "some people" warned about over 5 years ago !
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| Quote: bigalf "The S106 obligation is still valid for the rest of the site which has plenty of plots to trigger it. The test will be how the developer submits future applications in relation to that.'"
They will either follow the precedent and chance their arm again or bide their time until the need for a new stadium, at NM or otherwise, goes away.
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| Quote: bigalf "The S106 obligation is still valid for the rest of the site which has plenty of plots to trigger it. The test will be how the developer submits future applications in relation to that.
Whether the developer ever intended to build a stadium is a good point, something which "some people" warned about over 5 years ago !'"
Good, they can all have a Brownie point and feel good about themselves.
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| Quote: GIANT DAZ "Maybe judging by their crowds this year they should knock 2 of the stands down and save money !!'"
Glass houses and stones, you of all people shouldn't be throwing them
What would your crowd be if you were at the bottom, you know, like you always used to be.
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| Is there some sort of forcefield on the pennines that ensures competent stadium builders and council officials stay out west?
On one side you've Leigh, Saints and Wire with lovely grounds getting built, and on the other you have Bulls, Wakey and Cas struggling to get out of, or otherwise update their dilapidated holes in the face of ineptitude and shysters.
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| Quote: Pumpetypump "Is there some sort of forcefield on the pennines that ensures competent stadium builders and council officials stay out west?
On one side you've Leigh, Saints and Wire with lovely grounds getting built, and on the other you have Bulls, Wakey and Cas struggling to get out of, or otherwise update their dilapidated holes in the face of ineptitude and shysters.'"
Halifax are a bit of a fart in the face of that theory. Cracking little ground they've got over there.
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| Quote: Nothus "Halifax are a bit of a fart in the face of that theory. Cracking little ground they've got over there.'"
Now it is but it lay half built for years. And that was down to our patented Yorkshire incompetence.
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