I'm beginning to think there are two NRL Premierships because the one I watch often seems different to what is described with rose tinted glasses on here!

I wish they'd get rid of him tbh. Every contentious decision, Eddie asks for his opinion.

Its a fast game, mistakes are made, but to have their former boss pick each error apart does undermine the refs, and the fans' view of the refs. Whether we think the refs are crap or not, that's not the right thing to be doing.

Especially when the RFL don't like people picking apart their disciplinary decisions

To be fair he defends and agrees with the ref on the vast majority of decisions. He also often explains the decision on behalf of the ref to Eddie and Stevo correcting them when they try and create controversy far more often than creatin the controversy himself.

Whilst I would agree that it isn't good to dwell on our emphasise poor decisions it isn't great to brush them under the carpet either. I know a few casual viewers and football fans who appreciate Cummins' input, and I can see why. Personally I think having an ex ref on the panel is a good idea and adds another dimension to the commentary, just like having ex players does.

This. Without him the two muppets would be left peddling their ignorance unchecked.

I actually think they use Cummins very well, and who better to explain from a ref's POV? It's not Cummins that's the problem, it's Stevo in sanctimonious mode who prattles on about decision after decision.

Bang on. It's Eddie and - painfully and relentlessly and with a level of stupidity rare in someone who's seen so many matches - Stevo that go on about decisions.

Cummins is a brief oasis of rationality in an otherwise ranting, raving and often embarrassing commentary box.

Justr waiting for the occasion when he says to tweedle-dee and tweedle-dum something along the lines of "god, Im glad neither of you two are ever out in the middle officiating"

He also came out with one of my favourite comments from a pundit. In the Gf last year, Warrington were penalised for crossing and the camera cut to Smith shaking his head in disgust and Eddie stating Smith obviously disagrees Cummins replied 'we'll he was at the meeting where the rule was agreed'

Only read the first page of this

I like him. I think he gets every call spot on.
Anything that puts the refs under pressure to get things right is ok with me.
It is frustrating that sometimes refs would get things wrong, especially video refs but unless you had only one person doing the job for every game you will get a slightly different interpretation.
Why there needs to be two video refs is beyond me.
The majority of calls are glaringly obvious and the 50/50 calls just need a little common sense.

Id like to hear his insights to the game a little more to be honest. Get his opinion on good and bad plays.

Another thing. I don't think he fans the flames for more discussions, rather eddie uses his knowledge and opinions to put arguments to bed.

One final thought

Northerners - stop finding things to moan about. It's boring.

Why?

Is moaning only for southern softies then. LOL.

I can say living down here they are well practised at it