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[quote="Tarquin Fuego":3e09qe5x] I love Jamie and have done since he was 10 years old. [/quote:3e09qe5x]
[quote="The Reason":3e09qe5x]Hi Andy
The Rugby Football League are in the process of reviewing the video that you are referring to. We do not condone behaviour of this nature and have contacted the player’s employer, Hull F.C., who have confirmed that they are dealing with the incident under their club rules.
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| Quote: Dougy "didn't Garry Schofield turn Wigan down for more money at Leeds? Didn't Ellery Hanley leave Wigan for Leeds for the same reason when he was still in his 20's? Can anyone remember?'"
Hanley was 30 when he signed for Leeds. |
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
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| Quote: Ovavoo "It was only natural that Wigan should have dominated not just the CC but all RL competitions. The town had business men prepared to back the club financially, fans who loved the game and were prepared to turn up in thousands, a proud heritage with a production line of talent that benefited, not just Wigan but most other teams and still does today. Was it good for the game, yes it was in the same way Usain Bolt's domination of sprinting is good for athletics.
Can Warrington produce the same dominance, possibly but probably not for as long.'"
But it ultimatly cost them their stadium |
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| Quote: Sheldon "Hanley was 30 when he signed for Leeds.'"
I think Wigan let Hanley go because they thought he was past his best (he was but still a very good player) and because they wanted Offiah.
I'm not sure about Schofield.
Wakey appeared in four finals in the sixties, 3 wins and the Watersplash lottery. There's bound to be a dominant team in any particular era. Widnes in the early eighties. In fact I reckon the '89 Widnes side would have stopped Wigan's run had they got there. But they had a player sent off in the semi and lost to Saints. The sending off was laughable to say the least but that's RL.
Leeds went four times in the seventies lost two back to back and then won two back to back.
The Hull clubs were also quite dominant in the eighties but true to form FC have still never won it at Wembley - theylost in '80 (Hull KR) won at Elland Road in '82 and lost in'83 (Fev  ) and '85 (Wigan one of the best finals ever for neutral) |
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Jamie Jones-Buchanan
"I'd never forgive myself if a child of mine was born in Lancashire"
And neither would any Lancastrian.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_1673.jpg |
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| Quote: Starbug "But it ultimatly cost them their stadium'"
You can't take comfort in that. The game is about glory and trophy hunting and Wigan are now well back in the hunt, probably stronger than ever. |
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| Quote: major hound "I think Wigan let Hanley go because they thought he was past his best (he was but still a very good player) and because they wanted Offiah.
I'm not sure about Schofield.
Wakey appeared in four finals in the sixties, 3 wins and the Watersplash lottery. There's bound to be a dominant team in any particular era. Widnes in the early eighties. In fact I reckon the '89 Widnes side would have stopped Wigan's run had they got there. But they had a player sent off in the semi and lost to Saints. The sending off was laughable to say the least but that's RL.
Leeds went four times in the seventies lost two back to back and then won two back to back.
The Hull clubs were also quite dominant in the eighties but true to form FC have still never won it at Wembley - theylost in '80 (Hull KR) won at Elland Road in '82 and lost in'83 (Fev ![]()
More recently Saints won it four times in five years, 2004,2006/7/8.
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kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
He started to sing as he tackled the thing
That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg |
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| Quote: Ovavoo "You can't take comfort in that. The game is about glory and trophy hunting and Wigan are now well back in the hunt, probably stronger than ever.'"
Not ' taking comfort ' , just pointing out the flaw in the history |
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Jamie Jones-Buchanan
"I'd never forgive myself if a child of mine was born in Lancashire"
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| Quote: Starbug "Not ' taking comfort ' , just pointing out the flaw in the history'"
Might be a consequence not a flaw. |
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[b:2boqkfe7][color=#800000:2boqkfe7]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONS 2017 & 2024
SUPER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1998, 2010, 2013, 2016, 2018, 2023 & 2024
CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024
LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010, 2012, 2020, 2023 & 2024
ACADEMY GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019 & 2024
WOMEN’S GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2018
BEST SUPPORTED CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010, 2011, 2012 & 2024
CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010 & 2012
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| Quote: Starbug "But it ultimatly cost them their stadium'"
It was the financing of the new stand, which went way over budget that ultimately cost them.
It would have probably happened anyway regardless of the success as the stadium was looking very tired in the mid nineties.
Hull FC groundshare at the KC, without the run of success Wigan had.
I know which recent history I'd rather have. |
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| but Warrington have Bentham so could easily dominate in years to come  |
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Championship (3 times): 1947–48, 1953–54, 1954–55
Challenge Cup Winners (8 times): 1904–05, 1906–07, 1949–50, 1953–54, 1973–74, 2009, 2010, 2012
Super League Leaders Shield (once): 2011
Premiership Winners (once): 1985–86,
Lancashire League (8 times): 1937–38, 1947–48, 1948–49, 1950–51, 1953–54, 1954–55, 1955–56, 1967–68
Lancashire Cup (9 times): 1921–22, 1929–30, 1932–33, 1937–38, 1959–60, 1965–66, 1980–81, 1982–83, 1989–90
Regal Trophy (4 times): 1973–74, 1977–78, 1980–81, 1990–91
ITV Floodlit Competition: 1955–56:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_53317.jpg |
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| Quote: boomer "but Warrington have Bentham so could easily dominate in years to come ![]()
bentham is from Oldham and supports leigh!!
he just did his referee training in warrington
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| No it will change when the Pensioners all retire.  |
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Warrington led 16-2 in Saturday's Grand Final, but their joy was short-lived as Wigan roared back to win the Super League title and extend the Wire's 58-year wait to be champions:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_10174.png |
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| Leeds paid £250k for a 30 year old Hanley in '92, that's circa £500k in today's money |
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| Quote: Orrell Lad "Leeds paid £250k for a 30 year old Hanley in '92, that's circa £500k in today's money ![]()
Thats very true but he did score 106 tries in 104 games which is bloody impressive for a forward, just a shame we didnt win anything in his tenure.
Quote: Orrell Lad "No it will change when the Pensioners all retire. ![]()
I agree with this. Wire are bringing through some good players at the moment but none capable of replacing Hodgson, Morley, M. Monnaghan and Briers who will probably be gone by the end of next year. They cant go and buy top class aussies anymore because of the salary cap over there now.
If any team is to dominate like Leeds have over recent years I think it is more likely to be Wigan than Wire!!
I suspect Wire may fall into the same trap Leeds have by hanging onto players a year too long and have a lot of players leaving at the same time.
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Ahh Tesco
Building St Helens & Warrington's future
Destroying Wigans past
"Viva Ben Flower, Viva Ben Flower, could have won the cup but you Messed it up Viva Ben Flower": |
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Wigan's record of consecutive CC wins will never be beaten. Superleague teams are more evenly matched now.
Wire need to win it next year to be on a par with St Helens winning it 4 times in 5 yrs. 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008.
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Jamie Jones-Buchanan
"I'd never forgive myself if a child of mine was born in Lancashire"
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| Quote: wolfinwidnes "bentham is from Oldham and supports leigh!!
he just did his referee training in warrington'"
Can't half tell. |
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