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| I'm a Leeds fan and i agree with the Catalan players.
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| The RFL is investigating.
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| How about the RFL realise the refs are usually complete horse manure and this is inevitably going to frustrate people. Better reffing = Less anger at pi55 poor officiating
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| Quote: HKR Smithy "How about the RFL realise the refs are usually complete horse manure and this is inevitably going to frustrate people. Better reffing
Until players stop knocking-on, putting kicks direct into touch, failing to find touch with kicks, and missing tackles, more humility and less entitlement wouldn't go amiss.
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| I love that quote from Robinson.
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| Quote: vbfg "I love that quote from Robinson.'"
Especially if he said it with a dead pan face!
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| Quote: LeightonP "Until players stop knocking-on, putting kicks direct into touch, failing to find touch with kicks, and missing tackles, more humility and less entitlement wouldn't go amiss.'"
Players will always knock on, kick direct into touch etc, what we want from referees is a higher level of consistency in their performance. Its seems like every week one cocks up a vital decision, which if the score is 50-0 with 10 minutes to go will not have any effect, however if its 18-16 at the time and the decision costs one side two points, then the RFL need to start punishing poor performances where the mistakes are costly.
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| Quote: LeightonP "Until players stop knocking-on, putting kicks direct into touch, failing to find touch with kicks, and missing tackles, more humility and less entitlement wouldn't go amiss.'"
People always bring this argument up and it makes absolutely no sense. A player knows what they want to do with the ball but sometimes they don't have the skill, another player stops them from doing it, etc. A referee has to look at what's happening and make a decision on it. Not saying it's easy, but they're two completely different things.
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| Quote: rover49 "Quote: rover49 "Until players stop knocking-on, putting kicks direct into touch, failing to find touch with kicks, and missing tackles, more humility and less entitlement wouldn't go amiss.'"
Players will always knock on, kick direct into touch etc, what we want from referees is a higher level of consistency in their performance. Its seems like every week one cocks up a vital decision, which if the score is 50-0 with 10 minutes to go will not have any effect, however if its 18-16 at the time and the decision costs one side two points, then the RFL need to start punishing poor performances where the mistakes are costly.'"
How should the RFL 'punish' the refs? Send them to the championship for a week? They would have to replace them with refs who are not as good as the current ones and who would make more mistakes. No matter how good or bad the current ones are we have to accept that they are probably the best we have got, and they are trying their hardest. Perhaps we should try having a game with no ref and see how we get on then.
People need to start ignoring the refs and concentrate more on just enjoying the rugby.Sadly, the muppets on sky are not helping as they seem utterly obsessed with what the ref is doing and fans seem to be following their lead.
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| Not just the idiots on Sky (not that they are not idiots) but although I was severely hungover and drifting in and out of sleep during the ANZAC test on the weekend. Everytime I seemed to wake up the Aussie commentators were bemused by another odd decision from "Mr Silverwood"
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| Twitter is the work of the devil and any person in the public eye, no matter how little, should avoid it like the plague.
Greenshields playing to the gallery and blaming the ref. I'd think more of him if he had a good go at his team mates, in the dressing room not on twitter.
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| Quote: Adamjk "People always bring this argument up and it makes absolutely no sense. A player knows what they want to do with the ball but sometimes they don't have the skill, another player stops them from doing it, etc. A referee has to look at what's happening and make a decision on it. Not saying it's easy, but they're two completely different things.'"
The point is this
Consistency between refs, and from game to game for the same ref in some cases, could be better. But that's true of a number of players, too. If you've got a penalty machine like Gareth Hock, Ben Westwood or Ben Cross playing for your team, it's unlikely that the problem in a close game is going to be the ref's calls.
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| Quote: LeightonP "The point is this
I'd hardly say players get a free pass. Go and watch most games and you'll hear personal abuse aimed towards players for mistakes made or poor performance as well as booing on occasions.
Referees don't have opposition trying to stop them from doing what they want to do. They observe and make a judgement based on it. Like I said, it's not going to be perfect but the two are completely different.
My main gripe with refs is that they tend to call games how they want to. One week you'll get someone who hardly penalises holding down in the tackle, the next week a different ref will want the game to be free flowing and will blow his whistle every time there's a hint of interference. You basically have to not only gameplan for your opponents, but also for the referee that you get.
I don't know how often they have meetings between all top level referees but it seems to me like they could do with having more to get them all on the same wavelength and to try and get some consistency across the board with how the rules are applied.
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| Re clint can anyone tell me if he is injured, i heard a commentator on sky say about a full back being our for a long time, this was just before the catalan leeds match kicked off but i didnt hear who he said, and greensheilds didnt play last week ive looked all over but can not seem to find out anything, can anyone help please.
Ive got him in a fantasy team, and living in the south i dont get as much S/L news as north.
Cheers.
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