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No-one will argue at all the work at grass roots is going well. It's the fast tracked pro teams that need 'help' yet get dispensations that people have their backs up at.
In an ideal world one would be left to breed into the other but bottom - up not the other way around.
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"Remind me again where rugby league had expanded into 20 years ago.'"
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| Quote headhunter="headhunter"No they haven't, you're an idiot.'"
A nice personal message that maybe you would like to visit the AUP thread?
Also, you think Crusaders deserved to be in the Super League ahead of Widnes who have one of if not the biggest financial backer in English RL compared to the Crusaders going bust after only one season? You think other than Sky's interest the London based Super League club has been a success?
As many youngsters are playing the game in North London due to the Skolars as there are around the Quins club. South London is certainly up there with them both too. So it shows there doesn't need to be a top flight club just to progress the sport in these areas.
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Crusaders didn't go bust.
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| Quote nick hkr="nick hkr"And where were the RFL when we were litterally minutes away from being put into Liquidation? Lost all our assets and the players we would have been able to bring through chose the team in the top division to go and train or play for. We still managed to bring through players such as Jon Wilkin and Ian Kirke who were polished off by the bigger and better clubs that could afford the facilities that enabled them to do this.'"
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| Quote nick hkr="nick hkr"...Also, you think Crusaders deserved to be in the Super League ahead of Widnes who have one of if not the biggest financial backer in English RL compared to the Crusaders going bust after only one season?'"
At the time of the last franchise decision (Widnes had gone bust, Crusaders hadn't) then yes of course. |
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| Quote dids858="dids858"Crusaders didn't go bust.'"
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| Quote nick hkr="nick hkr"And where were the RFL when we were litterally minutes away from being put into Liquidation? Lost all our assets and the players we would have been able to bring through chose the team in the top division to go and train or play for. We still managed to bring through players such as Jon Wilkin and Ian Kirke who were polished off by the bigger and better clubs that could afford the facilities that enabled them to do this.
I am not blaming the expansion clubs one little bit I encourage it but my point still stands, while the RFL have wined and dined these expansion clubs they have let traditional clubs that brought a lot to the game over the hundred plus years just die a painful death.
Where were the RFL when Leeds CC slapped Hunslet in the face when promising them a ground suitable for the Super League? When the RFL gave Keighley a massive kick in the nuts and then just let them roll around for years with no help what so ever?
All in the name of expansion that apparently takes 40 years to mature?!!'"
My lord you're an idiot.
Both Hull and Huddersfield were saved by sacrificing expansion clubs. Why? Because it was worth it. Why were Keighley entitled to SL? I must have missed this one, biggest myth going around.
Secondly the RFL didnt make Widnes, Keighley, Halifax, Blackpool or whoever go bust, they did this off their own accord. Its not the RFLs fault Blackpool couldnt write a business plan on the back of a fag packet to save themselves.
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| Quote Paull3v="Paull3v":12tzbm8hbit.ly/eJ716I
Just thought id point out this to some of the expansion bashers. This programme was only set up last year and now 9 players from areas outside the heartlands have signed for other clubs.
Just shows that with the persistence the game is still growing, and the bigger the talent pool availible, the better our game will be.'" with 5/6 dual registered SL juniors , an o/seas quota , an ex SL player as player/coach and the rest made up from local lads like these would be the perfect vehicle to bring this type of player on
Wouldn't you say ?
Cost to the RFL ? 1 million over 4/5 years
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I think to get the desired effect and properly grow the game through exposure, you'd probably need more than that tbh
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| Quote Dico="Dico"I think to get =#FF0000the desired effect and properly grow the game through exposure, you'd probably need more than that tbh'"
What ' desired effect ' , and ' exposure ' to who ? |
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"So an RFL funded Championship 1 club based in the Midlands [ say near Stoke/Derby with 5/6 dual registered SL juniors , an o/seas quota , an ex SL player as player/coach and the rest made up from local lads like these would be the perfect vehicle to bring this type of player on
Wouldn't you say ?
Cost to the RFL ? 1 million over 4/5 years
How hard can it be ?'" Why would the governing body create and fund a club to directly compete against its own member clubs? That's not how sport works and not what should be done. |
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