Look at everyones ratings for Goulding... take off your Wigan blinkers.


Unfortunately I don't know every English player coming through every teams academy, I was just throwing my teams up and coming English players into the mix.

Agree with this. No-one expected us to beat NZ or Australia. We know the backs aren't good enough, we know the Aussie officials won't give us a fair go. The attitude and workrate of the team were excellent in both games - and they looked like a cohesive unit in both games. McNamara has to get some credit for that.

Kel Egan was excellent on the radio, BTW. Can't remember hearing such in-depth analysis of the action on British media before.

1. Tomkins
2. TBA
3. Shenton
4. TBA
5. TBA

6. TBA
7. Eastmond

8. Graham
9 Roby
10 TBA
11 Westwood
12 Burgess
13 TBA

pick the form players at the end of the season, dont pick players from the trophy winners/big four just because they look good in a winning side, try and pick club combinations and partnerships that work and ignore the sky hype machine when picking the team

All we can do is look forward to next year because that far away still.

The fullback position as far as I’m concerned is wide open if Sam Tomkins doesn’t produce anything of any note next week. We need someone who doesn’t get caught behind the line or gets shoved over. Paul Wellens has even had better games against Australia than Sam Tomkins. But Sam has time on his hands and he strikes me as a player that will get better over time.

But Wellens international days are over and its probably a contest between Richard Owen, Gareth Widdop and Sam Tomkins for the fulback role. However don’t rule out a return of Lee Smith who may well take over Brent Webb at fullback when webby finally leaves Leeds.

The wing position is pretty strong really. Ryan Hall and Will Sharp are probably the strongest prospects for next year. But the futures certainly looking bright with Tom Briscoe, Zak Hardaker and a few others breathing down their necks.

I’d love to see Danny McGuire and Kyle Eastmond play in the halves. I’d love to see Martin Gleeson back in the centres and the return of Michael Shenton would be a blessing too. The Hooker position will be contested between Sinfield and Roby for the next few years at least.

For the second row I’d have to go with Liam Farrell. I’m pretty shocked that he’s not been picked for this tour. Loose forward is a no brainer with Sean O’ Loughlin. God help us if Westermen ever makes it to the international scene because there’s that many injuries.

Prop forwards we’re not fine. Would love to see the Prop forwards consist of Graham, Peacock, Crabtree and Ryan Bailey.

Gleeson won't be picked for England again, he's burnt his bridges, speaking of Bridges, Chris Bridge will be starting centre in next years four nations.

The future of England Rugby League is the consistent RFL demise of the international scene and there belief that a franchis system cures all ills.

Australia probably have over 80 players to choose from, where England have at best struggle to raise 17 international standard players. Almost 40% of Superleague players are "overseas" players.
For 2011 I thought the RFL model was to restrict teams to 5 players next season yet it looks as though the average is going to be between 6 to 8 overseas players.

We,ve got 2 more years to sort it out but we seem to be saying this every 2 years, every 2 years,every 2 years,every 2 years - talk about Groundhog Day

Give it time- The team is young and we have more coming through

I agree. Although his form totally deserved a place in the team I can understand why he wasnt chosen.



It isnt exactly a big improvement, if any, though is it.

Briscoe made 3 runs the entire game ffs and was at fault for tries. 3 runs for a wingers is shocking.

Goulding did nothing wrong bar 1 knock on when the ball was actually stripped and wasnt at fault for any tries. Goulding won 2 penalties with clever dummy half runs, one of which led to a try, made more than twice as many runs as Briscoe and more than twice as many metres whilst also making more tackles. Indeed Goulding made more metres than any other back. This is despite being injured for most of the second half. goulding was also much better than Briscoe last week. It certainly isnt me that needs to take the blinkers off.

The last bit is the icing on the cake, in our hour of need there's ryan bailey, all our prayers are answered genius !!

Yes it is, Bridge was possibly THE form player in SL in the month before he got injured.

Mind you, we still don't have anything to trouble the opposition in the backs. The problems start with the junior teams every Sunday up and down the M62 corridor.

Anything is a improvement based on our centres performances in the last 2 games.

Plus, Bridge is far more composed than any of the current centres, he's got great hands, knows how and when to get a pass away to his wingman ( ask Chris Hicks ) plus he can beat a man with his footwork.

So yeah its a big improvement on what we had out there today.

as it at stands at the moment.

CLUELESS!!!!

We can't even get the basics right at international level and as for "thinking"